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#7263228 - 01/03/13 08:58 PM Re: 1886 38-56 [Re: shrapnel]
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Originally Posted By: shrapnel
Originally Posted By: Marc
I think the lower price is just because the 38-56 doesn't have the romance of the other cartridges it was chambered in. They are heavy!


The 38-56 came out in 1887, answering a question that was never asked. Not an improvement on anything, but much as the Short Magnums of today, a way to produce another caliber to sell more guns.



I got to laugh with you on that one!

For about 35 years the Big W brought out a .38 and .40 caliber to go along with each new .44/.45 case that they introduced, yet the performance of each load was so similar in each series that you wondered why they went to all the bother.

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#7263548 - 01/03/13 10:04 PM Re: 1886 38-56 [Re: 30Gibbs]
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Agreed 30Gibbs, and on another note, I could give a flying squirrels fuzzy nutsack what collectors find romantic or desirable, if I like the rifle, I buy it, and I buy to keep, hunt, and shoot those fine old guns.

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#7263611 - 01/03/13 10:15 PM Re: 1886 38-56 [Re: 30Gibbs]
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Originally Posted By: 30Gibbs
Originally Posted By: shrapnel
Originally Posted By: Marc
I think the lower price is just because the 38-56 doesn't have the romance of the other cartridges it was chambered in. They are heavy!


The 38-56 came out in 1887, answering a question that was never asked. Not an improvement on anything, but much as the Short Magnums of today, a way to produce another caliber to sell more guns.



I got to laugh with you on that one!

For about 35 years the Big W brought out a .38 and .40 caliber to go along with each new .44/.45 case that they introduced, yet the performance of each load was so similar in each series that you wondered why they went to all the bother.
Just like today, marketing, marketing, marketing. Some things never change.
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#7268456 - 01/04/13 10:57 PM Re: 1886 38-56 [Re: timbo762]
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the 38 40's were supposedly a little snappier than the 44 40's.

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#7268668 - 01/04/13 11:57 PM Re: 1886 38-56 [Re: TheOldTree]
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I think the main reason .38-40s persisted is that they managed to make the barrels very consistent, unlike the .44-40 whose dimensions wander all over the place. The same thing seems to be true of .38-40 and .44-40 revolvers. This issue became even more important when the switch to smokeless powder occurred.

Ive had .44-40 Wins that had from .426 to .432 bores, but all the .38-40s I've had were .400-.401. Colts AND Winchesters.
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#7269093 - 01/05/13 01:51 AM Re: 1886 38-56 [Re: Loggah]
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Originally Posted By: Loggah
Pretty sure this one i own is worthwhile !! smile



Amazing!! Can I come to your house & pose for a picture with that gun? laugh

My 1886 is nice but it's not THAT nice.
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#7270481 - 01/05/13 12:42 PM Re: 1886 38-56 [Re: Reloder28]
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Long ride for a picture !!!! grin there is a few more in 38-56 these cabinets! Don




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#7280409 - 01/07/13 06:30 PM Re: 1886 38-56 [Re: Loggah]
Henry McCann Offline
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Loggah,

When ever I see pics of your rifles, I always think New Hampshire is not really that far from Montana. I bet Loggah would let me visit the Mecca of Leverguns. grin

Always appreciate you posting pictures!

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#7282136 - 01/08/13 12:46 AM Re: 1886 38-56 [Re: Henry McCann]
gunner500 Offline
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Dang right Henry, too bad I dont have any more business trips up to Concord, I'd have to try and finaggle an invite to see Loggahs guns. grin

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#7286573 - 01/08/13 11:53 PM Re: 1886 38-56 [Re: gunner500]
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I got a few friends in Montana, Actually theres a 30" barrel 45-90 in there that came out of Montana. i'm just about 1 hr. north of Concord. Don

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