Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Long Range Hunting Expansion characteristics of the Lapua Scenar, 155 gr. .308 ?

Have 200 .284 180 grain scenars on my loading table as I write this. And Graf and sons has them in stock also.

Aren't those the Scenar-L ?

That's hilarious. You shoot one animal with it, it dies a few seconds later, and you claim it didn't work for you....

What's the jacket thickness on the Scenars? This is a 155 hybrid I cut away. Jacket thickness is .035 and the hollow point is .400 deep with a fairly open meplate.

Scenar just a new version. Supposedly the tolerance's are tighter.

Dead critters trump exit wounds. Unless you can't find the carcass.

Since this bullet seems to perform so well in the 308 at long range, how do you reckon it would do at 3200fps +?

Pat, No sir,I did not claim it did not work for me, please reread my post. I said I PREFERRED an exit. I readily admitted it killed the cow elk. I was fortunate that my shot went where it was supposed to go and death in the vitals is certain. Its just how quickly death happens and how far an animal might run.
In fact I sent you an PM prior to ever using the Secnar asking about performance based on your experience, your experience was valuable info to me as I had not used the bullet for hunting. Yet my experience didn't mimic yours. I only tried to give another example ( yes, sample of one that came out ok, but could have been otherwise)of the terminal performance the Secnar. I am surprised that another opinion cant be stated on here without the ridicule of being considered "hilarious"....
Bill

Isn't that true for every bullet?

DT,
Not sure I understand your question. The intent of every shot fired at game should be a quick and certain death and should be shot at a vital area. In the field, we know that every shot doesn't always hit that intended spot. The perfect shot should always yield perfect results but again that doesn't always happen. I have seen bullets that were supposed to be reliable performers hit exactly where aimed yet the bullet didn't perform as advertised or expected. No explanation why they didn't perform, just that they didn't. Terminal ballistics is still a studied subject and every season we read on this forum and others where bullets don't perform as expected.

Personally, I think exit wounds are over-rated and would've been pleased with that performance, but if someone else likes or wants them, more power to him.

You're right about not finding the carcass though. That always equals bullet failure.

Not finding a carcass might equal bullet failure or a non-lethal hit. Without a carcass, how do you know.

Exactly. But you hear that all the time.

And it's not necessarily the bullet's fault. When I was 35 (which was a few years ago) an older hunter told me the .308 Winchester was a POS deer cartridge. He knew this because he'd shot two deer with it, right in the heart, and never found either buck.

Ha. When I was about 22 (more years ago) I had a guy sing the praises of his lever action .35 Remington. Because he'd shot a doe with it once, up on a mountainside at 350 yards. With open sights. He was a guy who never needed to get very far from the truck, because that's where the hot coffee was. And the best stories. That one came from within yards of the truck.

Bumping this thread up for the upcoming season!

Good idea. Looking forward to the latest developments.

The Laupa web site write up for the new Scenar L bullet shows a picture of a bullet with a lead core much closer to the nose of the bullet than any sectioned Scenar bullet that I have seen. The Scenar L bullet hollow point appears to be less than half that of the regular Scenar bullet. Has anyone here split a Scenar L bullet? If so, please post the picture.

My hunting partner will be using the 155's in a 300 h&h this year for lopes. I'll report back on results. They are moving along at 3250.

I received this answer from Lapua when I ask about the Scenar L bullets.

"Hi Richard,

No, that’s not exactly the case. Frankly, we have a wide assortment of Scenars and Scenar Ls. Some have been slightly altered for ballistic reasons, and some are virtually identical to their standard Scenar counterparts. In short, the illustration is for conveying the conceptual idea only, and is not an engineering type of diagram.

I hope this answers your question, but if there’s anything more we can do to be of service, please don’t hesitate to let us know. As always, we’ll be glad to help.

Sincerely,

Kevin Thomas
NAMMO/Lapua
409 E. Second St.
Sedalia, MO 65302
(660) 826-3232"