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I know it's subjective but what is the most felt recoil you have experienced?
The worst gun I have owned was a custom 338 win mag that weighed just under 6 lbs with the scope. I shot one elk with it before it sheared off the base screws and I got rid if it.
The worst recoil I have shot was a custom built by Dennis Olsen of Plains MT. He chambered my Lilja bbl 7 mag and when we went to the range to test it he brought along a 600 nitro double he had built. It felt heavy at around 14 or 15 lbs and I wanted to give it a try. I shot one of his "proof loads". It was a 900 gr at 2400 fps. I considered myself an experienced shooter and I thought i was prepared, offhand, standing. It felt like I got sucker punched. My right thumb came back and gave me a fat lip and bloody nose. I checked a recoil calculator and it showed well over 130 foot lbs of recoil. I only was man enough for the one shot.

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The worst thing I have ever shot was a Win M70 .458 Lott that belonged to a buddy and weighed less than 8 pounds. I had some Lott rounds loaded with 550gr Woodleighs that I loaded for a PH buddy and after the first shot from the bench I felt like I'd been stunned. The same loads in my CZ 550 .458 Lott are not bad at all but that M70 with its light weight and narrow footprint on the shoulder was brutal, much worse than either my Lott or my .470 DR.

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One of the bad ones was a Remington 700 in 375 Rem Ultra Magnum. Without a scope, it really didn't weigh a whole lot. The absolute worst was a polymer frame Stoeger 12ga shotgun shooting 3.5" 18 pellet 00 buckshot. It was just painful.

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Originally Posted by Amos
One of the bad ones was a Remington 700 in 375 Rem Ultra Magnum.

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When I first got my Rem 700 .375 RUM, I mounted a 2-7x Leupold on it, took it to the range and it only took 6 or 8 shots to convince my that it was not a fun gun to shoot, in fact it was the hardest kicking gun that I have ever shot.

So I put a new custom laminated stock that fits me on it, had a KDF muzzle brake installed, and eventually added a recoil reducer in the stock. After those modifications, I've shot several hundred rounds through it, I've taken it to Africa twice where I used it to make my longest and shortest one shot kills on a big game animal with a rifle, 348 yds on a gemsbok and 30 yds on an eland. I also shot several animals from prone positions, all with no ill effects from reciol.

It will also shoot 3 shot moa groups at 100 yds with both 270 and 300gr Barnes TSX bullets.

It's also the gun that I am holding in my avatar photo.


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460 Weatherby....no doubt about it for me.

Lesser items that got my attention was a wildcat equivilent of the 358STA;the 375AI;and the 458 Win.All are rude.I found a 470NE double sorta easy goin' by comparison.While on the subject, the 300RUM absolutely sucks....fast,abrupt,and hard.




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this .375 Ultra. i have one a few ounces heavier that kicks noticably less with the same loads

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.500 A-Square, 600 grain bullet running 2450fps. The rifle weighed 11 pounds four ounces when I bought it in 1996.


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Originally Posted by toad
this .375 Ultra. i have one a few ounces heavier that kicks noticably less with the same loads

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The 280 Remington is overbore.

The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Hi Dogwater,

I'll answer your question and add a comment as well.

I own and shoot several double rifles. I have a vintage 1896 Charles Osborne 450 400 3-1/4 (10#) a Krieghoff .470 (11#) and a brutal Armeria de Madrid .500NE (10#), The .500 is borderline abusive and I can only shoot it about 6-8 times with full power loads. I see stars, my molars bleed. It resembles being hit in the side of the face with a lead pipe. I do not believe I am recoil sensitive at all. (GeorgiaBoiler has shot it as well)

Now my comment. I just signed up here last week, I used to post on AR quite a lot, I left for several reasons. One of which is the dick measuring contest in their DR forum between several posters. One a doctor, and one an ex-ariforce pilot whose name resembles the Sears line of lousy sporting goods.

These guys shoot .500's, .577's and the behemoth .600NE. These guys are constantly bragging about how far they can shoot off hand, how many shots they can take in a day (one claimed 100) and even post their targets to prove their manhood to one another. One of them bragged about shooting 200 rounds (IIRC) of his .600 overkill in one afternoon.

As we all know, weight is the best defense against a vicious recoiling big bore. These clowns are now asking the Heym rifle guy to build them 11-11.5 pound .577's and .600NE's. Even the Heym representative is telling them that makes a rifle nearly impossible to handle. A .577 should weight nearly 13#'s and a .600Ne should be 13 minimum. The pre-war Brits knew how to build these things weight correct for caliber.

So, to my point, you are not less man for feeling this amount of recoil is uncomfortable and excessive. There was a big bore expert and writer over on AR for year's his screen name was 500grains. He has told me personally that shooting his .600NE was the nearest thing to an automobile accident he has ever experienced.

This comment is simply my opinion; When a man shoots rifles that violent, and brags about his ability to handle it "with ease" and please build my next one lighter, he is compensating for some felt inadequacy in his life somewhere. I DO NOT EVER want to shoot a rifle with more felt recoil than my 10# .500NE.
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Those clowns on Accurate Reloading are full of schitt. Nobody shoots 100 rounds of .577 NE, .600 NE, or .600 OK in an afternoon and if they claim to then they are full of schitt.

Accurate Reloading used to have some knowledgeable and experienced posters like 500Grains but Saeed and Don ran them off long ago. That site has long since devolved into a competition between the elderly fat guys who can afford to go to Africa and come back and tell lies about their bravery, the sandal lickers who lick Saeed's smelly Arab arse in the hopes of getting a free safari, and the egomaniacs like Ted Williams and that fat doctor who claim to be impervious to recoil and are petitioning Heym for a 5 lb .577 NE double. LMAO!!

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I've owned and shot many big bores. Everything from 375's up to the 458 lott. I've owned 3 lotts and fired many rounds. The one that is the worst is my 375 rum. In factory trim with full house loads, its pretty brutal. I've changed out the stock and backed down the handloads a little and its much more enjoyable now. With the brake, its like shooting a 3006. Dont use the brake much but nice to know its there if I want it.

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I have a .378 Weatherby Mark V with a classic style stock and it kicks very hard and very fast. It does not have a muzzle brake on it.


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.458 Lott is a great cartridge and in the right rifle very shootable. Love it.

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The worst I ever experienced was a 458 Lott on a #1. #1's do not fit me and I only shot it once, never again. A 338-378 on a #1 wasn't much better.

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Originally Posted by 6MMWASP
The worst I ever experienced was a 458 Lott on a #1. #1's do not fit me and I only shot it once, never again. A 338-378 on a #1 wasn't much better.


^^This^^ !!! Got a buddy that has the exact same rifle. Felt like I had a concussion afterwards...


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Originally Posted by GeorgiaBoiler
Those clowns on Accurate Reloading are full of schitt. Nobody shoots 100 rounds of .577 NE, .600 NE, or .600 OK in an afternoon and if they claim to then they are full of schitt.

Accurate Reloading used to have some knowledgeable and experienced posters like 500Grains but Saeed and Don ran them off long ago. That site has long since devolved into a competition between the elderly fat guys who can afford to go to Africa and come back and tell lies about their bravery, the sandal lickers who lick Saeed's smelly Arab arse in the hopes of getting a free safari, and the egomaniacs like Ted Williams and that fat doctor who claim to be impervious to recoil and are petitioning Heym for a 5 lb .577 NE double. LMAO!!


I don't think your too far off track on some of this!


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I've yet to shoot any REALLY big boomers.

I have done a LOT of bench time with my 8.5 lb .375 Wby. I have done SOME bench time with one each a .416 Rem and a Rigby. I ran about a box and a half through a .458 Win one afternoon pretty quickly. But the absolute most uncomfortable thing I ever benched is a toss-up between a Browning BPS 10 ga. with 2 1/4 oz. turkey loads and a '95 Winchester four-hunnert-five with a steel buttplate. YOWZER !!


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.500 A-Square, .460 Weatherby and a too light .450 Ackley.

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My very worst kicker is an 8-Bore rifle, it fires an 850 gr round ball over 300 grains of FFG Swiss powder at 1400 fps.

The rifle weighs 10.0 lbs even, and IIRC churns out about 190 ft. lbs. recoil energy.

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Originally Posted by 6MMWASP
The worst I ever experienced was a 458 Lott on a #1. #1's do not fit me and I only shot it once, never again. A 338-378 on a #1 wasn't much better.


Man, I heard that. I have a #1 tropical in .416 Rigby and it is a bear.

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