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#7259514 - 01/03/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: Wbypoor]
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#7277218 - 01/06/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: gunner500]
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Most recoil I remember was 3 rounds of 500 Jeffery when I was about 15 years old. Man did my brain get rattled.
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#7287380 - 01/09/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: gunchamp]
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The .458 Lott kicked my butt in four rounds, and put a hairline split in my brand new Ruger RSM's stock tang while it was at it. My threshold might be .375 H&H for accurate, somewhat relaxed shooting.

Perhaps Ruger will fix or replace the stock and I'll give it another go.

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#7289504 - 01/09/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: philthygeezer]
458 Lott Offline
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My 500 Jeffrey shooting 600 gr bullets. I still haven't worked up to a max load as the 2200 fps starting loads got my attention and then some off the bench.

I'd say once you get to pushing a 500gr or heavier bullet 2200 fps or faster, you're in a different ballpark of recoil compared to lesser rounds. Even though you can concentrate and not flinch, and with proper technique they won't hurt you, but it takes a tremendous amount of concentration to squeeze off each shot because the gun is going to come back hard.

I loaded 350's @ 2400 fps out of my 458 lott and it was downright reasonable, once I even fired off 2 boxes of ammo during a lunchtime range session. But the 500 gr loads, 10 shots in a session was often too much.
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#7289872 - 01/09/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: 458 Lott]
EddyBo Offline
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How would shooting your very heavy aluminum ramrod out of your TC encore with 150grs of pellets compare with a some of these monsters yall are shooting?

I have been considering doing a big bore but may not after reading some of these posts

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#7290053 - 01/09/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: GeorgiaBoiler]
Arac Offline
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I might sound like a Polyanna, but a plain old Remington Model 700 BDL in .338 Win Mag was the worst for me. Much worse than any of the .375's I've owned and also much worse than my Model 700 Classic in .416 Rem Mag. I guess it just didn't fit me well or something.

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#7290155 - 01/09/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: Arac]
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Over the years I've had several 375s, several 416s, a 10lb 6 oz 450/400 and a 10lb 13oz 470.
But I found my limit with a 450 Ackley (essentially a Lott) that belonged to a PH in Zim. It was about 9-9.5 lbs and truly memorable.


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#7290358 - 01/09/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: Savuti]
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Boat paddle stock Ruger .338. The first one hurt so much I had to try it again. This is a two shot rifle but so far has only needed one. An amazing amount of pain, and I routinely shoot a .375 H&H and .416 Taylor, both under 9 pounds, taught me to ABSOLUTELY put the first round where no second round will be required.

I actually, finally, bought a new stock and that made it a four round rifle.

Terry

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#7290530 - 01/09/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: bluesman]
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The best way to put any objectionable medium bore in perspective is to shoot a few rounds through it, then shoot 3 rounds through a 458 lott or larger, and then shoot your medium bore again.

I gurantee your medium bore will no longer feel objectionable. I also highly recomend a past mag shoulder pad for benchwork, though a lott or larger will still knock you around.
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#7290638 - 01/09/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: bluesman]
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Originally Posted By: bluesman
Boat paddle stock Ruger .338. The first one hurt so much I had to try it again. This is a two shot rifle but so far has only needed one. An amazing amount of pain, and I routinely shoot a .375 H&H and .416 Taylor, both under 9 pounds, taught me to ABSOLUTELY put the first round where no second round will be required.

I actually, finally, bought a new stock and that made it a four round rifle.

Terry


i had a Ruger tang safety .338 that i hated. sold it after just a few rounds.

i just bought one of those boat paddle .338s. so far so good, but all i've shot in it is 225 gr. bullets.

wanna sell your boat paddle stock?
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#7290665 - 01/09/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: toad]
Lee_Woiteshek Offline
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Loc: Pueblo West, Colorado
I once owned two MK V 300 Weatherby's. One a Euromark with beautiful wood, and one an Accumark. I shot the Accumark prone with factory Nosler 180's. Did I mention I used to be a scope crawler?

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#7291657 - 01/10/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: dogwater]
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Registered: 02/19/04
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Loc: Iowa

I've had rifles up to the 458 Lott but the thing that put my keester in a puddle of water was a lowly 31/2",12 ga. H&R single shot shot gun I bought for a cheap turkey gun for my son-in-law. I don't know what these long tent pegs weigh but it isn't enough.

I had some Win 31/2 inchers and rather than shoot offhand, I squatted--didn't sit because a recent rain had made the place a swamp. I wanted to pattern a few of these loads to see what the ugly thing would do--touched one off whilest sitting on my hocks and promptly dunked my a_ _in the drink. It was memorable. Gave it to my son-in-law with a warning.

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#7296273 - 01/11/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: George_De_Vries_3rd]
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No one has mentioned the .340 Weatherby, so I will. I had one in the stainless sythetic Mark V action with no brake - one range session was enough and someone else now owns it. Interestingly enough, I don't have any trouble with any of my three .375 H&H's or either of my .458 win mag. Perhaps it was gun fit, but I hated that .340 Weatherby rifle.

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#7302976 - 01/12/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: 458 Lott]
colorado Offline
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Registered: 10/27/07
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Loc: Colorado Springs, Colorado
Originally Posted By: 458 Lott
The best way to put any objectionable medium bore in perspective is to shoot a few rounds through it, then shoot 3 rounds through a 458 lott or larger, and then shoot your medium bore again.

I gurantee your medium bore will no longer feel objectionable. I also highly recomend a past mag shoulder pad for benchwork, though a lott or larger will still knock you around.


Agree! My 500 Jeffery makes our 416s and 375s seem like pussycats smile
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#7307203 - 01/13/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: Swoobie]
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Originally Posted By: Swoobie
No one has mentioned the .340 Weatherby, so I will. I had one in the stainless sythetic Mark V action with no brake - one range session was enough and someone else now owns it. Interestingly enough, I don't have any trouble with any of my three .375 H&H's or either of my .458 win mag. Perhaps it was gun fit, but I hated that .340 Weatherby rifle.


A .340 Weatherby demonstrates one of the very best platforms to prove the effectivness of Magnaporting. Once done, I'd prefer a .340 over most medium bores for the up front thump and the long range trajectory which is up there with the 7mm Rem.

I like it.

John
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#7307265 - 01/13/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: AussieGunWriter]
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Getting back to heavy loads, my heaviest exercise was working up loads for my .460 with 550gn Woodleigh Weldcores and some 600gn Barnes Originals I had on hand.

The 600 grainer's topped out with 116gn IMR 4350 at 2460fps and 8064 FPE. Ultimately I settled on the Woodleigh bullet at the same velocity, because of availability and construction, which was superior being a bonded bullet, compared to the "tube" cup and core Barnes product. I recovered one weighing 458 grains which is quite good weight retention from a lead core bullet.

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#7341135 - 01/21/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: AussieGunWriter]
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Registered: 10/04/10
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I own and have had the chance to shoot some big rifles. The worst recoil I've ever experienced was my T/C Encore with the 20" turkey barrel and heavy 3" mag turkey loads.
The gun only weighs 6 pounds.


Edited by ohiosam (01/21/13)

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#7343585 - 01/21/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: waterrat]
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Registered: 06/12/12
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Loc: NewEngland USA
Originally Posted By: waterrat
Originally Posted By: GeorgiaBoiler
Those clowns on Accurate Reloading are full of schitt. Nobody shoots 100 rounds of .577 NE, .600 NE, or .600 OK in an afternoon and if they claim to then they are full of schitt.

Accurate Reloading used to have some knowledgeable and experienced posters like 500Grains but Saeed and Don ran them off long ago. That site has long since devolved into a competition between the elderly fat guys who can afford to go to Africa and come back and tell lies about their bravery, the sandal lickers who lick Saeed's smelly Arab arse in the hopes of getting a free safari, and the egomaniacs like Ted Williams and that fat doctor who claim to be impervious to recoil and are petitioning Heym for a 5 lb .577 NE double. LMAO!!


I don't think your too far off track on some of this!


This was my experience on AR as well. They run the site like a club promoting certain ideas, products (and big ego's).

Anyone who crosses a line, critical of certain product or idea, is hounded and provoked in a tag team manner. Name calling and disrespect all part of the act.

My crime, I was critical of the 600ok. Never the users, just the design parameters. Man, did I ever hit a nerve. I got dumped on big time. I fought back with criticism of muzzle brakes, 2 shot magazines and rebated rims. Pointed out a few 1000's reduction in bore diameter and all issues resolved. I was banned.

I noticed a couple other of the more informed members disappear as well. Never saw anyone banned for bad manners or personal insults. As far as I could guess, it was for opinions contrary to certain moderator or member views.

Website based forums are not a democracy. The owner & moderators can do what they like. I joined several hobby forums and this one caught me by surprise. Live and learn. Fortunately, there is a world of good people and forums to join.

As to most recoil, my 6 lb H&R 12ga with 3 inch magnums is pretty rough.

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#7343962 - 01/22/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: fourbore]
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For me it's my ten pound 600NE single shot! 900 grains spinning out at 2150 will get your attention.


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#7344696 - 01/22/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: AkMike1]
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i have no real interest in touching off a 600NE but that is one seriously cool looking single shot....
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#7346396 - 01/22/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: rattler]
gunner500 Offline
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No kidding Rattler, that thing is sweet, is it an old Greener or Farquharson?

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#7346793 - 01/22/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: gunner500]
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Looks like a Farq
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#7346998 - 01/22/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: EvilTwin]
gunner500 Offline
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Originally Posted By: EvilTwin
Looks like a Farq


I'll bet 900 grains at 2150 will knock the Farq out of a man. grin

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#7347016 - 01/22/13 Re: Most felt recoil [Re: gunner500]
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Originally Posted By: gunner500


I'll bet 900 grains at 2150 will knock the Farq out of a man. grin

Gunner


It'll get your attention very quickly!

And you need to hang on tight! crazy

This is a Daniel Fraser action. None of the mentioned actions have side levers.
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