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#7300659 - 01/12/13 Re: Edge or mcswirly [Re: aalf]
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Sounds great Aalf.
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#7300792 - 01/12/13 Re: Edge or mcswirly [Re: Sask_Hunter]
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SWEET!
They nailed that swirl!




Originally Posted By: Sask_Hunter
This showed up today. Action is off getting a new barrel. 223AI



Remington mountain rifle. 50/50 black orange with 1/2" decelerator.

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#7300848 - 01/12/13 Re: Edge or mcswirly [Re: slg888]
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Originally Posted By: slg888
Originally Posted By: JBO69
No, Homo's sit home and polish their McSwirly.
John, Least I have someone to polish it. laugh


No matter how much it's polished, it won't be as stiff as my Edge. laugh

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#7302028 - 01/12/13 Re: Edge or mcswirly [Re: nsaqam]
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Originally Posted By: nsaqam
Originally Posted By: Rancho_Loco
Originally Posted By: toad
Originally Posted By: slg888
Don't care for painted stocks, I like the McSwirl.


Edge stocks don't have to be painted



Phuckin a!

Sweet!
My next EDGE is going to be a bondo patch.
Wonder how much weight the lack of paint saves?


Don't spec bondo, spec clear/gel coat.. I can't see any weight savings, but the F1 carbon fiber just looks bad ass.
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#7302193 - 01/12/13 Re: Edge or mcswirly [Re: Rancho_Loco]
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Good to know RL.

And yes, the carbon fiber does look bad ass.
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#7302357 - 01/12/13 Re: Edge or mcswirly [Re: slg888]
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Originally Posted By: slg888
Homo's hunt with Edge.


Homo sapiens?

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#7303719 - 01/12/13 Re: Edge or mcswirly [Re: ctsmith]
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Originally Posted By: ctsmith

SWEET!
They nailed that swirl!




Originally Posted By: Sask_Hunter
This showed up today. Action is off getting a new barrel. 223AI



Remington mountain rifle. 50/50 black orange with 1/2" decelerator.



What barrel maker and contour did you go with?

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#7303760 - 01/12/13 Re: Edge or mcswirly [Re: BurninDupont]
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EDGE all the way.
The edge has a performance benefit of increased stiffness and decreased weight.
If the swirlie crowd is buying them based on perceived aesthetics, they still have no argument... and they should probably turn in their man card.
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#7303832 - 01/12/13 Re: Edge or mcswirly [Re: 406_SBC]
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Originally Posted By: 406_SBC
21 inch sporter contour .223AI is screaming for an Edge fill stock.......


Absolutely! Not even a doubt to me.

Dober
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#7303865 - 01/12/13 Re: Edge or mcswirly [Re: Mark R Dobrenski]
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Originally Posted By: Mark R Dobrenski
Originally Posted By: 406_SBC
21 inch sporter contour .223AI is screaming for an Edge fill stock.......


Absolutely! Not even a doubt to me.

Dober


Or, what I would do, one of Bansner's. Just haven't got around to it. grin






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#7303879 - 01/12/13 Re: Edge or mcswirly [Re: EdM]
Mark R Dobrenski Offline
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Bansner is nice as well, especially if one prefers the fuller chunky kind of feel. But it'll weigh another 5 oz or so as well.

That said, I can like them both a ton and it don't matter to me which one just give me one and I'll light the torch!

Dober
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#7304378 - 01/13/13 Re: Edge or mcswirly [Re: BurninDupont]
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Originally Posted By: BurninDupont
Originally Posted By: ctsmith

SWEET!
They nailed that swirl!




Originally Posted By: Sask_Hunter
This showed up today. Action is off getting a new barrel. 223AI



Remington mountain rifle. 50/50 black orange with 1/2" decelerator.



What barrel maker and contour did you go with?


Shilen #2 1-8" twist. Should have .5" exposed shank and finish at 22

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#7304787 - 01/13/13 Re: Edge or mcswirly [Re: Sask_Hunter]
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I'd do the Edge. I can't see putting up with 1/2 lb. more weight just to have some goofy swirl gel coat job. If we're talking a .375 H&H or .416 remington that needs the weight then that's another story, but on a light .223 I'll take the lighter weight every time. If you've gotta have some goofy pattern on your stock then take it down to the guy who airbrushes T-shirts at your local mall and tell him to have at it.

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#7304858 - 01/13/13 Re: Edge or mcswirly [Re: laker]
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I'd go with the Edge.
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#7306501 - 01/13/13 Re: Edge or mcswirly [Re: Poconojack]
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I've a 22" factory sporter .223AI in a mcswirly (compact). Balance is good and scoped it comes in a little less than 8 lbs. A remington sporter contour with a bore for a .223 isn't a "light" contour...considering weight/balance, it's a magnum(+) contour.

...go with a mcswirly on this one and then do the same build with a mt contour and edge next... grin

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#7306679 - 01/13/13 Re: Edge or mcswirly [Re: JCMCUBIC]
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Edge stocks are not as solid as standard fill. Most respected smiths I've talked to shy away from it. I had a situation that definitely gave me reason to doubt in them. Edge is a slam dunk only if you intend to weigh your rifle and not use it.

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#7306685 - 01/13/13 Re: Edge or mcswirly [Re: ctsmith]
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Originally Posted By: ctsmith
Edge stocks are not as solid as standard fill.
Where did you come up with that info?
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#7306729 - 01/13/13 Re: Edge or mcswirly [Re: prairie_goat]
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I'll borrow this pic of a Manners light fill. The fill material (the white colored fill) used in the Edge and in Manner's lighter stocks is not as solid as that in standard fills. Manners acknowledges this and at least uses the more solid, durable fill in critical areas (the gray colored fill material).

I found a bubble in the paint of my most recent edge. After I removed the paint I didn't like what I found. I made several calls to men who bed these stocks day in and day out and found out that this was not unusual and the reason they all preferred standard fill.


Manners with standard fill in critical areas:




My last Edge, around the rear action screw pillar. I believe Manners is using their heavy fill behind the rear action screw, the same place where I have a void. It doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling.






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#7306759 - 01/13/13 Re: Edge or mcswirly [Re: ctsmith]
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EDGE isn't merely a fill material it is a complete package of fill material and shell construction.
All of my EDGE stocks have been every bit as stiff and solid as my standard construction McMillans have been.
No more standard construction McMillans for me ever.
But then my tolerance for recoil stops at the .300WSM/.300WM level.
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#7306761 - 01/13/13 Re: Edge or mcswirly [Re: ctsmith]
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Originally Posted By: ctsmith
Edge stocks are not as solid as standard fill. Most respected smiths I've talked to shy away from it. I had a situation that definitely gave me reason to doubt in them. Edge is a slam dunk only if you intend to weigh your rifle and not use it.



thanks for the laugh..
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#7306765 - 01/13/13 Re: Edge or mcswirly [Re: ctsmith]
ctsmith Offline
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Here's something else to chew on:

Originally Posted By: a10xrifle
SL on the Xtreme Hunter. Mainly due to the increased strength. 3 oz weight difference was not worth it to sacrafice the rugedness.

These New EH serries stocks are really nice but the fill is seriously ultra light. Im still a fan of the 90% CF shell and std light fill its indestructable!!!!

G.A. Precision

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#7306766 - 01/13/13 Re: Edge or mcswirly [Re: ctsmith]
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Originally Posted By: ctsmith


My last Edge, around the rear action screw pillar. I believe Manners is using their heavy fill behind the rear action screw, the same place where I have a void. It doesn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling.







Send it back to McMillan and they'll fix it.

Or keep it and complain.

Your choice.
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#7306771 - 01/13/13 Re: Edge or mcswirly [Re: toad]
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Toad, did you see the pics?

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#7306777 - 01/13/13 Re: Edge or mcswirly [Re: ctsmith]
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Looks like you prefer the second option.

TFF!!
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