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#7304984 - 01/13/13 mule deer hunting question
DEER_ASSASSIN Offline
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are there any western states that offer an over the counter (non draw) rifle tag for mule deer

thinking about a possible diy hunt out west on public land


thanks in advance
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#7305003 - 01/13/13 Re: mule deer hunting question [Re: DEER_ASSASSIN]
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there are lots of states that are really easy to draw, here there are lots of areas that are unlimited, but you have to go through a "draw" where you buy them online and there is no limit to licenses, but it's not over the counter.
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#7305018 - 01/13/13 Re: mule deer hunting question [Re: Colorado1135]
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you looking just to bag a mule deer, or do you want a trophy?
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#7305026 - 01/13/13 Re: mule deer hunting question [Re: Colorado1135]
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Wyoming usually has nonresident licenses left over after the drawing that can be bought without going into a drawing. They won't be in the most popular areas, and might have alot of private land so access won't be easy, but it can still be had.
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#7305066 - 01/13/13 Re: mule deer hunting question [Re: Colorado1135]
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Originally Posted By: Colorado1135
you looking just to bag a mule deer, or do you want a trophy?


any thing i would shoot IMO would be a trophy to me

but to answer you a question i am not looking for no 200 inch deer

and wouldnt care to shoot a weee lil one
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#7305101 - 01/13/13 Re: mule deer hunting question [Re: DEER_ASSASSIN]
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I took 2 does with a muzzleloader this year, NR tags are $80 for 2 does any species.

if it has to be a buck, then do your research, one can be had almost anywhere, just have to put some effort into it.

imagine someone going to where you live and wanted to shoot a nice 4x4 whitetail, doesn't have to be a B&C, but they want a nice one. what would your response be? pretty much the same as it is out here.
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#7305326 - 01/13/13 Re: mule deer hunting question [Re: Colorado1135]
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Get on the various states websites, and look for last years draw results. It will show you how many hunters put in and how many tags were allocated.

There will be several that had leftover tags, which go on sale the day after the drawing, first come first serve. You can use that information to tell you where you could likely get a tag the next season, barring management changes.

you figure out the units that usually have leftover tags, and cross reference that with which ones have lots of public land.

Decide where you want to go, and call them the day after the drawing is held to buy your tags.


Edited by smalljawbasser (01/13/13)

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#7305684 - 01/13/13 Re: mule deer hunting question [Re: DEER_ASSASSIN]
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to answer your question, yes. Idaho, i'd recommend south central. TO complicate things some units in that area are on an unlimited draw, meaning you will get a tag but you have to apply for it. Some units are OTC. (and also limited entry).

My advice would be to apply for a limited entry in idaho, there is no point system there so you have as good of chance as anyone.If you dont draw (likely not) go ahead and plan your OTC hunt. If you're not picky and hunt hard there is no reason you wont score on a buck.

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#7307258 - 01/13/13 Re: mule deer hunting question [Re: rosco1]
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not looking for a 200 inch one... thats funny. Ain't many of them around period anyway.

Just remember muleys are such that you probably can't accumulate 20 tags or so in one season, you may have to be happy with only one deer on a hunt.
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#7307716 - 01/13/13 Re: mule deer hunting question [Re: rost495]
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pmc and my self are in the early stages of putting something together for 2015 as it will be 10 years since we hunted antelope in NM.


my ex father in law hunted the badlands of ND several times he even killed a 179 inch one up there on public land, i actually put in for that unit one year but was not drawn.

do the states out west allow you to put in the draw as a group or party... where we both put in and either both are drawn or neither
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#7307825 - 01/13/13 Re: mule deer hunting question [Re: DEER_ASSASSIN]
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Idaho has OTC deer tags. Montana didn't used to, but they have had leftovers the past two years. Nebraska is first come first served with a cap that doesn't usually sell out until a few days before the season starts. Texas licenses include a mule deer or two, but of course there's the access issues.
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#7309025 - 01/14/13 Re: mule deer hunting question [Re: DEER_ASSASSIN]
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Originally Posted By: DEER_ASSASSIN
are there any western states that offer an over the counter (non draw) rifle tag for mule deer

thinking about a possible diy hunt out west on public land


thanks in advance


If you want a shot at a trophy buck, you're almost assuredly going to have to apply for premium areas. I'd suggest that you consider acquiring bonus points for trophy areas in western states.

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#7309440 - 01/14/13 Re: mule deer hunting question [Re: Laguna]
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shouldnt be too hard, you see 10 year old girls on these kinds of forums often with big kills

unless those are corn pile kills with sand bags and daddy pulling the trigger


you wouldnt know what to think DA, different when the animal is 3ft taller than the surrounding vegetation for 5 miles. Just wave your hat at them,
they'll stop, look and pose the 7saum laugh


aint like hunting whitetails in hardwood/briars running 400mph (away from the hunter)
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#7310609 - 01/14/13 Re: mule deer hunting question [Re: Colorado1135]
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Originally Posted By: Colorado1135


imagine someone going to where you live and wanted to shoot a nice 4x4 whitetail, doesn't have to be a B&C, but they want a nice one. what would your response be? pretty much the same as it is out here.


grin grin

I would NOT lie but would NOT suggest 'where' I hunt.

I'd suggest some 'other' area with good population 'not close' to mine. smile


Edited by jwall (01/14/13)
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#7311638 - 01/14/13 Re: mule deer hunting question [Re: Colorado1135]
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Loc: Nashville, TN
Originally Posted By: Colorado1135
I took 2 does with a muzzleloader this year, NR tags are $80 for 2 does any species.

if it has to be a buck, then do your research, one can be had almost anywhere, just have to put some effort into it.

imagine someone going to where you live and wanted to shoot a nice 4x4 whitetail, doesn't have to be a B&C, but they want a nice one. what would your response be? pretty much the same as it is out here.


To get an 8 pt on public land here I'd suggest LBL or TN Wildlife Refuge around Britton Ford
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#7311672 - 01/14/13 Re: mule deer hunting question [Re: PMC]
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Originally Posted By: PMC
Originally Posted By: Colorado1135
I took 2 does with a muzzleloader this year, NR tags are $80 for 2 does any species.

if it has to be a buck, then do your research, one can be had almost anywhere, just have to put some effort into it.

imagine someone going to where you live and wanted to shoot a nice 4x4 whitetail, doesn't have to be a B&C, but they want a nice one. what would your response be? pretty much the same as it is out here.


To get an 8 pt on public land here I'd suggest LBL or TN Wildlife Refuge around Britton Ford

I have no issue helping any fellow hunter out

I suggest lbl on TNWR britton ford/sulphur wells island or percy priest wma or cheatham wma
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#7313299 - 01/15/13 Re: mule deer hunting question [Re: DEER_ASSASSIN]
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Here's this year's Idaho OTC buck from unit 48.

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#7313573 - 01/15/13 Re: mule deer hunting question [Re: slumlord]
rosco1 Offline
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Registered: 03/03/08
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Loc: utah
Originally Posted By: slumlord
shouldnt be too hard, you see 10 year old girls on these kinds of forums often with big kills

unless those are corn pile kills with sand bags and daddy pulling the trigger


you wouldnt know what to think DA, different when the animal is 3ft taller than the surrounding vegetation for 5 miles. Just wave your hat at them,
they'll stop, look and pose the 7saum laugh


aint like hunting whitetails in hardwood/briars running 400mph (away from the hunter)


DA, Please include the dumbass in the quote on your hunt..take lots of pics.

Thanks!

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#7315176 - 01/15/13 Re: mule deer hunting question [Re: Rock Chuck]
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Originally Posted By: Rock Chuck
Here's this year's Idaho OTC buck from unit 48.



that is a dang fine buck that thing would be in my living room for sure
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#7315204 - 01/15/13 Re: mule deer hunting question [Re: jwall]
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Originally Posted By: jwall
Originally Posted By: Colorado1135


imagine someone going to where you live and wanted to shoot a nice 4x4 whitetail, doesn't have to be a B&C, but they want a nice one. what would your response be? pretty much the same as it is out here.


grin grin

I would NOT lie but would NOT suggest 'where' I hunt.

I'd suggest some 'other' area with good population 'not close' to mine. smile


i never asked for specific units or locations my question was about states and the availability of tags, any other info is always appreciated it is not like I will be up there all the time at the rate now once every 10 years. Truth be told we may just hook up with the land owner in NM outside of clayton and go there again but i really like to try something new like Mule Deer

From what I have seen from New Mexico in 2005 antelope hunting the west is pretty wide freaking open
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#7318522 - 01/16/13 Re: mule deer hunting question [Re: DEER_ASSASSIN]
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Originally Posted By: DEER_ASSASSIN
Originally Posted By: jwall
Originally Posted By: Colorado1135


imagine someone going to where you live and wanted to shoot a nice 4x4 whitetail, doesn't have to be a B&C, but they want a nice one. what would your response be? pretty much the same as it is out here.


grin grin

I would NOT lie but would NOT suggest 'where' I hunt.

I'd suggest some 'other' area with good population 'not close' to mine. smile


i never asked for specific units or locations my question was about states and the availability of tags, any other info is always appreciated it is not like I will be up there all the time at the rate now once every 10 years. Truth be told we may just hook up with the land owner in NM outside of clayton and go there again but i really like to try something new like Mule Deer

From what I have seen from New Mexico in 2005 antelope hunting the west is pretty wide freaking open



I would think that 10 years' bonus points would be sufficient to get you in a trophy mule deer area. There are only a few trophy mule deer areas in CA, and getting drawn for one ain't easy.

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#7318767 - 01/16/13 Re: mule deer hunting question [Re: Laguna]
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we are not so much interested in a trophy but a place with a good herd
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#7322856 - 01/17/13 Re: mule deer hunting question [Re: DEER_ASSASSIN]
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north western panhandle oklahoma

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#7323794 - 01/17/13 Re: mule deer hunting question [Re: DEER_ASSASSIN]
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Originally Posted By: DEER_ASSASSIN
we are not so much interested in a trophy but a place with a good herd


Just about anyplace in the west has mule deer herds. It's being able to find a buck during hunting season that's difficult. You can kill a buck within 50 miles of downtown LA -the way the crow flies- but you will work for it and it won't be much over 125lbs. The San Gabriel Mountains has lots of deer, bear, & mountain lions. But they're straight up & straight down. They are more rugged than the Rocky Mountains. But you can hunt deer in the morning and spend the rest of the day at Disneyland.

Deer Hunting San Gabriel Mountains


Edited by Laguna (01/17/13)

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