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MD, do you know if the BR Culver type drop charges anymore precise than an RCBS or Redding ?
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Anybody know if the RCBS powder baffle will work with the RCBS Chargemaster?
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No, I haven't tried one of the Culver-style Harrel measures. They might work even better than the Redding, but the Harrel is designed to throw anything up to 120-grain loads. Redding has found through testing that a measure specifically designed for a smaller range is more accurate. My tests indicated they're right.
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Besides, if you need 120 grains, just throw 40 three times.
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So now I'm a rifle looney and an anal handloader.
Off to my support group meet.
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I work hard to stay below 76 grs....my shoulder thanks me!
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I have been using the "Ron Popeil" method for 10's of thousands of loads, it has never let me down; "Just set it and forget it"...
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I work hard to stay below 76 grs....my shoulder thanks me! Don't forget your wallet.
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I have been using the "Ron Popeil" method for 10's of thousands of loads, it has never let me down; "Just set it and forget it"... Neat shop. I thought I had a bunch of stuff. I believe you have more Dillon tool heads with dies than I do. And I have only one blue press, but three green ones. Had four, but gave one to a good bud who is getting into reloading. My stack of die boxes is about the same. Those photos should warm the heart of any real Loony worth his salt... DF
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Warm my heart yes; pisses me off too cuz I have far less stuff yet a far bigger mess!
Sweet man cave there Shrapnel; I want to be like you when I grow up!
For my 15 yrs of reloading I've measured each charge. I had a measure early on but am not terribly patient in learning to operate such equipment. Furthermore, I like to have time at my bench... I even sometimes cleaned primer pockets... But over the last few years have upped my volume of shooting and cut back on such work. I got an OLD Lyman Ideal recently and have run Ramshot Hunter, Verminator, H-335, IMR-4895, and RL-15 through it. Only the RL-15 has needed to be checked.... actually it didn't "need" checking, I only did so because those loads were not for me but for a friend.
I look forward to Jon's article. I have much to learn about tossing charges!
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If charge weight accuracy is meaningless, why is everybody asking which powder measures throw the most accurate charges?!?!
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I haven't cleaned primer pockets since the '70's, but still weigh charges out of a powder measure. If I'm using Ramshot or a similar smooth metering powder, I check a few and then load direct, as the charges seem to be real consistent. With stick powders, loading precision rifle loads, I still weigh. Most charges are on the money, a few need minor adjustments.
If I'm going to check concentricity and straighten to less than .002" run out, why not weigh stick powder. I'm not in that big a hurry and don't load huge quantities of rifle ammo at a setting. For pistol rounds, I use a Dillon and load a bunch at a time.
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You guys are nutz. I count the number of kernels in each grain. For example there are 4 kernels in .10 gr of H4350, 40 kernels per grain. So for my .280AI it would be 58x40 = 2320 kernels. Just be sure to use a good pair of tweezers. Recounting is NO fun.
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I see you list Texas and W. Va. as locations. Do you adjust your count based on relative humidity? I noticed my kernel counts changed after I moved from humid South Florida to Idaho where it is much drier.
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If I'm going to check concentricity and straighten to less than .002" run out, why not weigh stick powder.
DF
Because getting concentricity under control gives a better ROI.
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I see you list Texas and W. Va. as locations. Do you adjust your count based on relative humidity? I noticed my kernel counts changed after I moved from humid South Florida to Idaho where it is much drier. I don't have to since the lids on my 8lb jugs are hermetically sealed. I really don't want to over complicate things either-nice and simple is always the way to go. I do have to raise the elevation on my rigs in WV. I'm pretty sure it's because there are a whole lot more trees which cause shade and cooler temperatures than down in TX. That slows the bullets down.
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But doesn't weighing every charge to less than 0.01 grains build character ?
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I found my RCBS powder thrower gave about the same results and it drove me potty..my OCD simply does do well knowing such variations might exist! I don't load or shoot in large volumes, so I used to to trickle and weigh each charge. These days I use a ChargeMaster which has speeded up the process quite a bit and still keeps the variation down to what I term acceptable levels.. Regards, Peter
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Have you ever worked with the Johnson Quick Measure? Ken Howell and Rocky Raab have said good things about it.
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