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Is Ruger killing the 300 & 338 RCM's?

I was on the Ruger website trying to check out a .338 RCM only to find the 8 lb Guide Gun is it! Are they kidding? I would think the RCM was more popular.


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The RCMs were a marketing epic fail.


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So what will I convert my 338RCM into when brass is impossible to find, or will Ruger replace the defective design? I feel a class action lawsuit in the making.


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Originally Posted by ingwe
The RCMs were a marketing epic fail.


I think it was just blind pride and stupidity.

Cartridges in search of a reason to exist... and a day late and dollar short at that.


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Originally Posted by Brad
...Cartridges in search of a reason to exist...and a day late and dollar short at that.


That's happened quite a bit the past twenty years or so. The focus has been lost. The world has changed. My Leupold rangefinder is made in China. Holding companies exist solely to make a buck, with little concern for pride of ownership. Why couldn't Remington develop a decent budget bolt rifle in thirty years of trying? Why are many new cartridges some kind of magnum? Why aren't the big companies listening to the consumer?

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Considering the fact that you could effectively hunt any game in the world with a 12 gauge shotgun and a battery of rifles in 3 or 4 calibers that have existed since 1956 or before, the last 40 or 50 cartridges that have been introduced seem a bit superfluous to me. There will be lots of nice rifles for which ammunition does not exist that will be taking up space in closets in years to come.

Many of them will be in calibers that haven't even been introduced yet.

I'll still be able to buy ammo for all of mine, because I am old-fashioned.

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Originally Posted by siskiyous6
I feel a class action lawsuit in the making.


Has something like that happened before when a cartridge was discontinued?


They are still making ammo and brass for the 8mm Rem, 6.5 Rem Mag and a host of others that have long since been dropped from factory chamberings. As long as brass/cartridges sell, they should continue to make them.

On another note, I'm stocking up brass for my .300 SAUM every chance I get just in case...that should save me the hassle of an (?) lawsuits..,


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Can't imagine the RCMs perform any better, or worse, than what's already out there. I was intrigued by the 20" barrel package of the 338 RCM. Make for a great hunting rifle.

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Ruger shoulda necked the 375 Ruger case down...they missed the boat...

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I actually like the case design of the RCM better than the WSM. I don't own one or a WSM at the moment though. They were just too late to the party.



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Ditto for the .30 TC.

I haven't figured out what it will do that the .308 Winchester won't do.


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The RCM's raison d'etre was magnum performance from a 20" barreled rifle.
As this experiment shows the market for short barreled magnums is pretty small.

I know I have less than no interest in one.


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Originally Posted by nyrifleman
Ruger shoulda necked the 375 Ruger case down...they missed the boat...


Yep, WTH were thinking..A 7 and 30 cal on the 375 case would have taken off..There is a pretty big long range crowd shooting the 7LRM, which is off of a 375 ruger.

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Originally Posted by bellydeep
Originally Posted by siskiyous6
I feel a class action lawsuit in the making.


Has something like that happened before when a cartridge was discontinued?


They are still making ammo and brass for the 8mm Rem, 6.5 Rem Mag and a host of others that have long since been dropped from factory chamberings. As long as brass/cartridges sell, they should continue to make them.

On another note, I'm stocking up brass for my .300 SAUM every chance I get just in case...that should save me the hassle of an (?) lawsuits..,


Lawsuits? crazy


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Originally Posted by ingwe
The RCMs were a marketing epic fail.


Couldn't let Remington have all the fun.


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Originally Posted by nsaqam
The RCM's raison d'etre was magnum performance from a 20" barreled rifle.
As this experiment shows the market for short barreled magnums is pretty small.

I know I have less than no interest in one.


Huh?

Nice French, but the RCM's have the case capacity of a 30-06 plus 1 grain give or take... hardly a magnum.


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Originally Posted by EdM
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Originally Posted by siskiyous6
I feel a class action lawsuit in the making.


Has something like that happened before when a cartridge was discontinued?


They are still making ammo and brass for the 8mm Rem, 6.5 Rem Mag and a host of others that have long since been dropped from factory chamberings. As long as brass/cartridges sell, they should continue to make them.

On another note, I'm stocking up brass for my .300 SAUM every chance I get just in case...that should save me the hassle of an (?) lawsuits..,


Lawsuits? crazy


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I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle.


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Originally Posted by Brad
Originally Posted by nsaqam
The RCM's raison d'etre was magnum performance from a 20" barreled rifle.
As this experiment shows the market for short barreled magnums is pretty small.

I know I have less than no interest in one.


Huh?

Nice French, but the RCM's have the case capacity of a 30-06 plus 1 grain give or take... hardly a magnum.


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Originally Posted by shrapnel
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle.


Originally Posted by JohnBurns
I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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They're more capacious than the .30-06.

And marketed as magnums.

According to ammoguide 67gr to 71gr.

According to QL 68gr to 75gr.

Both advantage RCM.

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Originally Posted by Steve Redgwell
[quote=Brad] Why couldn't Remington develop a decent budget bolt rifle in thirty years of trying?


They had/have the ADL...apparently it wasn't "budget" enough for the guys on a budget???


Originally Posted by shrapnel
I probably hit more elk with a pickup than you have with a rifle.


Originally Posted by JohnBurns
I have yet to see anyone claim Leupold has never had to fix an optic. I know I have sent a few back. 2 MK 6s, a VX-6, and 3 VX-111s.
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