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#749611 - 02/14/06 Parker Hale Firearms: What do you know about them?
Carolina Shooter Offline
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Registered: 08/12/05
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I found what I thought might have been someones attempt at a Mauser spoterizing attempt. Cheap synthetic stock and a very old scope. Upon closer inspection the maker of barrel and action was Parker&Hale Birmingham, England. After researching this product for value it is clear that in a field of high priced rifles Parker & Hale and BSA have no where near the demand that A Holand and Holand or a Gibb. Please share your knowledge on what is wrong with this rifle?

http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976686933.htm


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#749612 - 02/14/06 Re: Parker Hale Firearms: What do you know about them?
Duckbill Offline
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If you're looking for an inexpensive hunting rifle or project rifle, BSA and Parker-Hale's are good candidates in my opinion. I have an old BSA Royal Featherweight in '06 and I used to have a BSA Majestic in 270 (got rid of it in lean times). They are neat rifles and not too pricey.
The best reference material I know of is a book called "Bolt Action Rifles" by Frank De Haas.
The gun in the link looks similar to the U-9 version of the BSA that was imported by Herters.

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#749613 - 02/14/06 Re: Parker Hale Firearms: What do you know about them?
Bob338 Offline
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Nothing "wrong" with them. They were built on the Spanish made Santa Barbara Mauser action. That Mauser action was considered on the low end of the Mausers by the Mauser lovers, possible because they were inexpensive. Don't know why they were. I have a custom 243 built on that action that is the most accurate rifle I own.
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#749614 - 02/14/06 Re: Parker Hale Firearms: What do you know about them?
pumpgun Offline
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I have a parker hale model 1200 I got new in 1970. It was in 30-06 and has since been customized into a 358 norma mag. It has allways been a fine rifle. tom
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#749615 - 02/15/06 Re: Parker Hale Firearms: What do you know about them?
Carolina Shooter Offline
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Ok Appreciate the input. One more bit of trivia. The barrell says 7mm. Would you guess this is the classic 7X57 or the magnum.
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#749616 - 02/15/06 Re: Parker Hale Firearms: What do you know about them?
bdan68 Offline
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Just being marked "7mm" it would have to be a 7x57.

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#749617 - 02/15/06 Re: Parker Hale Firearms: What do you know about them?
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"trigger assembly is made with a fine zinc-alunumium alloy.e.g. pot metal"; one batch of actions had a heat treatment problem like low numbered Springfields "they were supposed to have recalled them all"; everyone says they are very accurate.And don't lose the clip.Cheap,at a gunshow a couple of years ago I saw a NIB 30.06 deluxe being offered at about $200US.
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#749618 - 02/15/06 Re: Parker Hale Firearms: What do you know about them?
pumpgun Offline
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The early ones that were made in england are high quality. The ones that were put togather here in the states are the ones that have the bad rep. tom
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#749619 - 02/15/06 Re: Parker Hale Firearms: What do you know about them?
Fredrick Offline
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Registered: 07/05/02
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My father used one from 1975 to 1998 without any problems. He shot at least 20 moose with it before he changed to a new weatherby in 300 wby mag. Not a nice looking custom rifle, but a real workhorse.

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#749620 - 02/15/06 Re: Parker Hale Firearms: What do you know about them?
SamSteele Online   content
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I hooked Yukoner up with one a little while ago from the local classifieds. PM him on it if you like. He seemed to like it.


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#749621 - 02/16/06 Re: Parker Hale Firearms: What do you know about them?
Yukoner Offline
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I have owned several Parker-Hales rifles over the past 40 years and all were perfectly serviceable. Some were very fine rifles and a few were exceptionally well done and very good looking.

All were very accurate.

The one I just got, that Sam Steele is referring to, shot into an inch with the very first load I tried in it.

Ted

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#749622 - 02/16/06 Re: Parker Hale Firearms: What do you know about them?
Mauser96 Offline
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One caution guys, and correct me if I'm wrong.

I believe Parker-Hale went out of business, and clips/parts may be very hard to find now.

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#749623 - 02/16/06 Re: Parker Hale Firearms: What do you know about them?
Fredrick Offline
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Mauser96, I think you are right about Parker Hale went out of business a few years back. Have not seen any rifles form them for some years now.

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#749624 - 02/16/06 Re: Parker Hale Firearms: What do you know about them?
olblue Offline
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The only Parker Hale I've ever owned is a 10ga. side by side, still have it , made in spain but a little higher quality then most spanish double 10's.
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#749625 - 02/17/06 Re: Parker Hale Firearms: What do you know about them?
Yukoner Offline
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They are out of business, however there are plenty of parts around. Most of them can be scavenged from 98 Mausers.

Detachable magazine models are quite a complicated setup. The trigger guard has a front screw that holds part of the action that receives the clip, but it is quite sturdy and I have never seeen one broken.

The magazine can get lost of course. Not a problem for me as i never owned one iwth detachable mag.

Ted

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#749626 - 02/17/06 Re: Parker Hale Firearms: What do you know about them?
pumpgun Offline
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My model 1200 doesn't have the Detachable magazine just a floor plate. In 35 years I have not needed any parts at all for it. tom
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#749627 - 02/17/06 Re: Parker Hale Firearms: What do you know about them?
Yukoner Offline
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Loc: Yukon Territory, Canada
Quote:

My model 1200 doesn't have the Detachable magazine just a floor plate. In 35 years I have not needed any parts at all for it. tom




That is a pretty typical experience with them, Tom.

Ted

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#749628 - 02/17/06 Re: Parker Hale Firearms: What do you know about them?
kenster99 Offline
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Loc: Hangtown Ca
Here's a picture of my Parker Hale mod. 1200 in 270 Win cal. Its as good as any mauser action I have owned, has adjustable trigger, conviently positioned and quiet safety, and light weight. Will even kill a small blacktail. Its a good shoot'n iron.

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#749629 - 02/20/06 Re: Parker Hale Firearms: What do you know about them?
kakali Offline
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I have a Parker-Hale model 1200 Super in 30-06 wich is very good. Itīs made in Birmingham England. These were the higher prized rifles of the product line in regular calibers. Then there were the Safari- grade rifles for the big Mangum kalibers, they had the highest prizetag of the hunting rifles. The P-H 1000 Midlands were the cheapest but still good rifles for the money. Next came the P-H 1200s with Shnabel forend and Monte Carlo stock, in general the same rifle as the 1200s but with different stock design and wood. The 1200 super rifles were sort of deluxe version of the line. They have a valnut stock with Monte Carlo, roll over cheekpiece and white spacers at the grip and forend, a grip cap and forend in contrasting wood, the forend is squarish, the butt comes with a nice recoil pad. For a while they also offered a Varmint version of the 1200 rifle. All this is long gone wich is a sin because we are talkin about excellent firearms here. The whole thing was sold to USA some years back to Gibbs Rifle Co. The rifles assembled by them are generally considered lower in quality than the England made ones. The detachable magazines came with the USA assembled rifles and a round forend on both the 1100s and the 1200s. Spare parts are to be found, they at Gibbs have some info about that.

Kakali

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