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#7514174 - 03/05/13 30-06 loads with 130gr TTSX
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Anyone loading this combination, what are your findings. I was thinking of loading the 130 grain for deer and elk over fields
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#7514610 - 03/05/13 Re: 30-06 loads with 130gr TTSX [Re: simplyme]
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I shoot the 168gr TTSX out of my 30-06, and the 130gr out of my 270, since 1992.

A 130gr Barnes at 3,200fps out of your '06 should work great on deer and elk.

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#7514684 - 03/05/13 Re: 30-06 loads with 130gr TTSX [Re: k22hornet]
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I ran Varget under the 130TTSX and was getting 3,100fps out of a 22" tube with great accuracy and there was room for more.
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#7514949 - 03/05/13 Re: 30-06 loads with 130gr TTSX [Re: simplyme]
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Varget at 53.5 grains under a 130 grain TTSX works like magic Plus or minus about half a grain will work with almost all rifles for the best accuracy. Velocity runs about 3150.

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#7515532 - 03/06/13 Re: 30-06 loads with 130gr TTSX [Re: MILES58]
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57/IMR4320/3047 fps out of a Howa.
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#7517092 - 03/06/13 Re: 30-06 loads with 130gr TTSX [Re: dawaba]
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54.0grs H4895 + 130 TTSX from my Titanium, fast and accurate.
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#7517952 - 03/06/13 Re: 30-06 loads with 130gr TTSX [Re: simplyme]
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RL15... IIRC 56.5 gr, RP cases & RP LR primers did very nicely accuracy-wise in my rifle though I haven't chrono'd it.
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#7518493 - 03/06/13 Re: 30-06 loads with 130gr TTSX [Re: efw]
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IIRC, 64.0 H414/ Fed 210 was my load with the 130's. Two grains under the listed maximum charge. It killed everything I shot, but I switched to 150's for no good reason. Outstanding accuracy and I never chrono'd it. My '06 loves H414 with eery bullet I have used.
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#7519275 - 03/07/13 Re: 30-06 loads with 130gr TTSX [Re: TakeEm]
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#7549100 - 03/15/13 Re: 30-06 loads with 130gr TTSX [Re: efw]
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Originally Posted By: efw
RL15... IIRC 56.5 gr, RP cases & RP LR primers did very nicely accuracy-wise in my rifle though I haven't chrono'd it.


56.0 RL-15
RP hulls
CCIs
3.270
avg. 3085fps
1/2 MOA
22" Tikka

Basically a fat 270 with a little more energy and 5" more drift at 500 yards.
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#7549390 - 03/15/13 Re: 30-06 loads with 130gr TTSX [Re: 16bore]
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I did some load workups with moly'd 130 TTSX a while back with RL15, and RL17.

Start low, work up with care.


Cartridge: 30-06
Bullet: Barnes 130 gr TTSX, moly’d
Barrel: 24” Rem Factory sporter
Brass: Norma
OAL: 3.26"
Primer: CCI 200
Powder: Reloder-15
59.0 gr - 3195 fps (24” bbl)
60.0 gr - 3255 fps
61.0 gr - 3315 fps

Cartridge: 30-06
Bullet: Barnes 130 gr TTSX, moly’d
Barrel: 24” Rem Factory sporter
Brass: Win
OAL: 3.28”
Primer: CCI 200
Powder: Reloder-17
63.0 gr – 3203 (24” bbl, 18’ from muzzle)
64.0 gr – 3258
65.0 gr – 3321
66.0 gr – 3357
67.0 gr – 3434

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#7549437 - 03/15/13 Re: 30-06 loads with 130gr TTSX [Re: MontanaMarine]
SAUMHUNTER79 Offline
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Originally Posted By: MontanaMarine
I did some load workups with moly'd 130 TTSX a while back with RL15, and RL17.

Start low, work up with care.


Cartridge: 30-06
Bullet: Barnes 130 gr TTSX, moly’d
Barrel: 24” Rem Factory sporter
Brass: Norma
OAL: 3.26"
Primer: CCI 200
Powder: Reloder-15
59.0 gr - 3195 fps (24” bbl)
60.0 gr - 3255 fps
61.0 gr - 3315 fps

Cartridge: 30-06
Bullet: Barnes 130 gr TTSX, moly’d
Barrel: 24” Rem Factory sporter
Brass: Win
OAL: 3.28”
Primer: CCI 200
Powder: Reloder-17
63.0 gr – 3203 (24” bbl, 18’ from muzzle)
64.0 gr – 3258
65.0 gr – 3321
66.0 gr – 3357
67.0 gr – 3434
Am I missing something? To me, even your starting loads look hotter than schit, does the moly really reduce pressures that much? Btw, I don't mean this in a pricky way at all, just curious because your loads exceed published data by quite a large margin, IMO.

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#7549468 - 03/15/13 Re: 30-06 loads with 130gr TTSX [Re: 16bore]
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Originally Posted By: 16bore
Originally Posted By: efw
RL15... IIRC 56.5 gr, RP cases & RP LR primers did very nicely accuracy-wise in my rifle though I haven't chrono'd it.


56.0 RL-15
RP hulls
CCIs
3.270
avg. 3085fps
1/2 MOA
22" Tikka

Basically a fat 270 with a little more energy and 5" more drift at 500 yards.


These were Moly as well....
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#7550631 - 03/15/13 Re: 30-06 loads with 130gr TTSX [Re: SAUMHUNTER79]
MontanaMarine Offline
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Originally Posted By: SAUMHUNTER79
Originally Posted By: MontanaMarine
I did some load workups with moly'd 130 TTSX a while back with RL15, and RL17.

Start low, work up with care.


Cartridge: 30-06
Bullet: Barnes 130 gr TTSX, moly’d
Barrel: 24” Rem Factory sporter
Brass: Norma
OAL: 3.26"
Primer: CCI 200
Powder: Reloder-15
59.0 gr - 3195 fps (24” bbl)
60.0 gr - 3255 fps
61.0 gr - 3315 fps

Cartridge: 30-06
Bullet: Barnes 130 gr TTSX, moly’d
Barrel: 24” Rem Factory sporter
Brass: Win
OAL: 3.28”
Primer: CCI 200
Powder: Reloder-17
63.0 gr – 3203 (24” bbl, 18’ from muzzle)
64.0 gr – 3258
65.0 gr – 3321
66.0 gr – 3357
67.0 gr – 3434
Am I missing something? To me, even your starting loads look hotter than schit, does the moly really reduce pressures that much? Btw, I don't mean this in a pricky way at all, just curious because your loads exceed published data by quite a large margin, IMO.



My RL15 results correlate real close to Barnes' data using W748, which burns about the same speed as RL15.

I haven't seen any published data for RL17. 130grTTSX in the 30-06. I used Quickload, and Alliant RL17 data for the 300 SAUM, to guide me, and laddered up.

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#7551135 - 03/16/13 Re: 30-06 loads with 130gr TTSX [Re: MontanaMarine]
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MM, did you find RL17 to be as accurate as RL15? I would have thought a slightly quicker-burning powder would be more "optimal" in this application.

FWIW, the quickload table in the link I posted is from MM, and I found the top end loads with both Varget and Big Game to be pretty much spot on for charge weight and velocity.

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#7551443 - 03/16/13 Re: 30-06 loads with 130gr TTSX [Re: seven_miller]
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I got a little better accuracy from the RL15. On average, about 1.0 moa vs 1.5 moa.

RL15 would seem like a good choice. It shot well, and puts enough speed on the bullet for any practical use.

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#7552984 - 03/16/13 Re: 30-06 loads with 130gr TTSX [Re: MontanaMarine]
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Originally Posted By: MontanaMarine
Originally Posted By: SAUMHUNTER79
Originally Posted By: MontanaMarine
I did some load workups with moly'd 130 TTSX a while back with RL15, and RL17.

Start low, work up with care.


Cartridge: 30-06
Bullet: Barnes 130 gr TTSX, moly’d
Barrel: 24” Rem Factory sporter
Brass: Norma
OAL: 3.26"
Primer: CCI 200
Powder: Reloder-15
59.0 gr - 3195 fps (24” bbl)
60.0 gr - 3255 fps
61.0 gr - 3315 fps

Cartridge: 30-06
Bullet: Barnes 130 gr TTSX, moly’d
Barrel: 24” Rem Factory sporter
Brass: Win
OAL: 3.28”
Primer: CCI 200
Powder: Reloder-17
63.0 gr – 3203 (24” bbl, 18’ from muzzle)
64.0 gr – 3258
65.0 gr – 3321
66.0 gr – 3357
67.0 gr – 3434
Am I missing something? To me, even your starting loads look hotter than schit, does the moly really reduce pressures that much? Btw, I don't mean this in a pricky way at all, just curious because your loads exceed published data by quite a large margin, IMO.



My RL15 results correlate real close to Barnes' data using W748, which burns about the same speed as RL15.

I haven't seen any published data for RL17. 130grTTSX in the 30-06. I used Quickload, and Alliant RL17 data for the 300 SAUM, to guide me, and laddered up.
Here's some various data w/RL-15 and a 125 - 130 gr Bullet:

.30-06 Springfield (Using 130 GR Hornady Bullets) Reloading Data

Warning! Notes: This data was shot by Brian Pearce, Wolfe Publishing Company. Gun: Marlin X7S; barrel length: 22 inches; case: Hornady; primer: Federal 210M Match; bullet diameter: .308"; COAL: 3.170"; maximum COAL: 3.340"; maximum case length: 2.494"; trim to length: 2.484".

130 Hornady SP Alliant RL-15 46.7 2600
130 Hornady SP Alliant RL-15 48.6 2703
130 Hornady SP Alliant RL-15 50.5 2801
130 Hornady SP Alliant RL-15 52.3 2915
130 Hornady SP Alliant RL-15 54.2 3030
130 Hornady SP Alliant RL-15 56.1 3135
Remarks: maximum load

.30-06 Springfield - 125 grain (Using Nosler Bullets) Reloading Data

Warning! Notes: rifle: barrel: Lilja; length: 24"; twist: 1-10"; case: Winchester; primer: Win. WLR; maximum SAAMI overall cartridge length: 3.340"; bullets: 125 grain Solid Base Ballistic Tip (green); use maximum loads with caution

125 Nosler Solid Base Ballistic Tip (green) Alliant RL-15 56.0 3,337
Remarks: maximum load; most accurate powder tested
125 Nosler Solid Base Ballistic Tip (green) Alliant RL-15 54.0 3,217
Remarks: most accurate powder tested
125 Nosler Solid Base Ballistic Tip (green) Alliant RL-15 52.0 3,136
Remarks: most accurate load tested; most accurate powder tested

.30-06 Springfield (Barnes Reloading Manual #3) Reloading Data

Warning! Notes: case: Winchester; primer: Federal GM 210M; barrel: 24"; parent case: none; trim to: 2.484"; XLC Coated X-Bullet data cannot be used with other bullets, including non-coated X-Bullets. Maximum loads should be used with caution - Always Start With Minimum Loads.

125 Barnes Solid Alliant RL-15 52.5 2,981
125 Barnes Solid Alliant RL-15 56.5 3,208
Remarks: maximum load

.30-06 Springfield (Barnes Reloading Manual #4) Reloading Data

Warning! Notes: case: Winchester; case trim length: 2.484" (except where specified otherwise in remarks); twist rate: 1:10"; primer: Federal 210; barrel length: 24"; barrel: Krieger; maximum loads should be used with caution; NOTE: The 130-grain TSX has a very short shank; we recommend lightly crimping the case mouth with a factory crimp-style die to increase neck tension. Powder charges of less than 100 percent density are recommended when loading 165-grain Banded Solid Spitzers, because of the length of the bullets. A 168-grain Barnes TSX BT bullet can also be used for the 165-grain data with COAL 3.218".

130 Barnes TSX BT Alliant RL-15 53.5 3107
Remarks: minimum; COAL: 3.218"
130 Barnes TSX BT Alliant RL-15 56.5 3285
Remarks: maximum; COAL: 3.218"



Do you see why I'm a bit concerned?


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#7553014 - 03/16/13 Re: 30-06 loads with 130gr TTSX [Re: SAUMHUNTER79]
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56.0 doesn't show squat for pressure outta my rig....
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#7553050 - 03/16/13 Re: 30-06 loads with 130gr TTSX [Re: MontanaMarine]
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RL-17 is really close in speed to IMR-4350, (Alliant techs recommend using I-4350 data when there isn't RL-17 data available), so I'd start with that data and CAREFULLY work up:

.30-06 Springfield (Barnes Reloading Manual #3) Reloading Data

Warning! Notes: case: Winchester; primer: Federal GM 210M; barrel: 24"; parent case: none; trim to: 2.484"; XLC Coated X-Bullet data cannot be used with other bullets, including non-coated X-Bullets. Maximum loads should be used with caution - Always Start With Minimum Loads.

130 Barnes XBT IMR IMR-4350 57.0 2,942
130 Barnes XBT IMR IMR-4350 61.0 3,148
Remarks: maximum load

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#7553060 - 03/16/13 Re: 30-06 loads with 130gr TTSX [Re: SAUMHUNTER79]
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Loc: Canyon Ferry, Montana
Originally Posted By: SAUMHUNTER79
...Do you see why I'm a bit concerned?



Published 30-06 data is good and all, and it will keep a Garand running well.

The 30-06 has more potential (useable volume) than that.

With bullets seated, the 30-06 is only behind the 300 SAUM by less than 4% useable volume. That roughly translates into 1% less velocity potential at equal pressures. Add a strong bolt action to the equation, and all is well.

Look at Barnes online data for the 30-06 and 130gr TTSX.

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#7555247 - 03/17/13 Re: 30-06 loads with 130gr TTSX [Re: MontanaMarine]
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I run 55.0grs of Varget behind a 130 TSX/TTSX. That is 1.5 grns over Hodgdon's max for a cup and core. It is also 1 full grn below Barnes max for the same cartridge.
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#11025334 - 03/07/16 Re: 30-06 loads with 130gr TTSX [Re: simplyme]
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