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Owners of a rifle in this caliber can always answer the question "Do you shoot a lot?" with a resounding YES.

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You can order a Lott through the Winchester custom shop, or at least you used to be able to.

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Hey Dennis, did you decide how to scope it yet?

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I haven't scoped it yet. It has bases but no rings. I need to get some rings and put a scope on it if just for load development.


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I have an El Paso Weaver K4 with a post & crosshair on my 450/400 N.E. 3" and it seems to be working pretty well. Its certainly no precision reticle, but it works well enough for its purpose.
I hope to see you shooting that monster in Q.

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You will!!


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I have one of each, 458 and 458 lott..Both are on pre-64 actions and will feed well with a round nose, blunt nose or pointed bullet..both built by frank Wells and he really works on the rails and follower so they will feed properly. It's important if you are going to mix your rounds..jm

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So what will a lott do that a 458 win cant????

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Finn used a 375 H&H and 458 win mag to take the big 5 and he certainly had access to the 458 lott even though it was a wildcat cartridge until 2002. (When Finn died in 2000 after a long battle with cancer, he passed on to his son Harald his .375 H&H and to his other son Erik, his .458 win mag. He left these two rifles as a legacy to pass on to the children and grandchildren.) While other gun writers were condemning one cartridge or another as totally useless Finn would objectively test them against measurable means. So why didn't Finn switch to the lott from the win mag if the lott is a better cartridge? Due to the lott not being a commercially available cartridge at the time? I wouldn't think that would be the sole criteria.

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if you actually have some of Finn's books....like i do.....he talks bout bullets coming apart with the 458 Win so he didnt think it was an all over success.....he also speaks highly of the 460 Weatherby....

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The .458 Lott will get you exactly 70 fps more with the same pressure as a .458 WM. It will also increase the chance that you will short stroke it while working the bolt.

Thus I can't see any reason for the Lott.



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I'm a bit off topic I know...but does the lott need a magnum action (like the rigby) or does it run a long action?

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The Lott doesn't need a magnum action. You can use a Model 70 action if you lengthen the magazine well.


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Strain gauge test shows my Lott gets 120-140 fps more velocity with the same pressure with 480 grain Hornady DGXs.

Shot about 30 rounds through it Saturday and the 480s are pretty accurate but probably not a very good reliable bullet terminally.


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The Lott has a definite ballistic advantage over the 458WM with any off the shelf ammo, or any ammo it seems, in terms of velocity with a 500 grain bullet. Thats really cool you fired a few off.What next?

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Need to shoot some critters grin


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Originally Posted by dennisinaz
Need to shoot some critters grin


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I would be very interested if some expert could list the animals that could be killed with the LOTT and not be killed with identical bullets loaded in the .458 and with identical bullet placement.

The list would be so short the only thing left would be reading between the lines?


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Originally Posted by dennisinaz
Need to shoot some critters grin


you ever shoot a 416rigby?

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Originally Posted by AussieGunWriter
I would be very interested if some expert could list the animals that could be killed with the LOTT and not be killed with identical bullets loaded in the .458 and with identical bullet placement.

The list would be so short the only thing left would be reading between the lines?



NONE- but the same thing could be said if you compared it to a 30-06, it is just a little more better laugh

Yes, I have shot a 416 Rigby but not at a critter. Biggest thing I have shot at a critter is a 340 Wby or 45-70 depending on your definition of bigger.


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