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#7767175 - 05/26/13 Even if you are not Catholic. . .
OrangeOkie Offline
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EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT CATHOLIC, THIS IS EYE OPENING ...

When the Catholic Church was founded, there were no hospitals. Today, one out of five people in this country receive their medical care at a Catholic hospital.

When the Catholic Church was founded, there were no schools. Today, the Catholic Church teaches 3 million students a day, in its more than 250 Catholic Colleges and Universities, in its more than 1200 Catholic High Schools and its more than 5000 Catholic grade schools.

Every day, the Catholic Church feeds, clothes, shelters and educates more people than any other organization in the world.

The new Obama Health Mandate could end all this and the tax payers would have to make up the loss. Also, all Catholic adoption services would come to an end. A human disaster.

There are more than 77 million Catholics in this country. It takes an estimated 50 million Catholic votes to elect a president. I am asking all of you to go to the polls in 2014 and be united in replacing all Senators and Reps with someone who will respect the Catholic Church, all Christians, and all Religions besides Islam.

Mr. President, you said, "The USA is not a Christian Nation." You are wrong - we are a Christian Nation founded on Judeo-Christian values allowing all religions in America to Worship and Practice Freely. Something Islam will never do.

Oh, by the way, on MUSLIM HERITAGE IN America...

Have you ever been to a Muslim hospital?

Have you heard a Muslim orchestra?

Have you seen a Muslim band march in a parade?

Have you witnessed a Muslim charity?

Have you seen Muslims shaking hands with a Muslim Girl Scouts?

Have you seen a Muslim Candy Striper?

Have you ever seen a Muslim do anything that contributes positively to the American way of life?
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#7767187 - 05/26/13 Re: Even if you are not Catholic. . . [Re: OrangeOkie]
The_Real_Hawkeye Offline
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Registered: 06/12/02
Posts: 70618
Loc: Northern Florida
Prior to Vatican II, the Roman Catholic Church was on a course towards totally dominating the United States by way of conversions. Statisticians were forecasting a predominantly Roman Catholic United States within just a few decades. After Vatican II, converts essentially disappeared, and Catholic families started abandoning the Church in droves. To them, it was like the Church was telling the world that it no longer believed in itself, abandoning practices and teachings from immemorial tradition.
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#7767212 - 05/26/13 Re: Even if you are not Catholic. . . [Re: OrangeOkie]
George_De_Vries_3rd Offline
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Registered: 02/19/04
Posts: 10946
Loc: Iowa
Originally Posted By: OrangeOkie
EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT CATHOLIC, THIS IS EYE OPENING ...

When the Catholic Church was founded, there were no hospitals. Today, one out of five people in this country receive their medical care at a Catholic hospital.

When the Catholic Church was founded, there were no schools. Today, the Catholic Church teaches 3 million students a day, in its more than 250 Catholic Colleges and Universities, in its more than 1200 Catholic High Schools and its more than 5000 Catholic grade schools.

Every day, the Catholic Church feeds, clothes, shelters and educates more people than any other organization in the world.

The new Obama Health Mandate could end all this and the tax payers would have to make up the loss. Also, all Catholic adoption services would come to an end. A human disaster.

There are more than 77 million Catholics in this country. It takes an estimated 50 million Catholic votes to elect a president. I am asking all of you to go to the polls in 2014 and be united in replacing all Senators and Reps with someone who will respect the Catholic Church, all Christians, and all Religions besides Islam.

Mr. President, you said, "The USA is not a Christian Nation." You are wrong - we are a Christian Nation founded on Judeo-Christian values allowing all religions in America to Worship and Practice Freely. Something Islam will never do.

Oh, by the way, on MUSLIM HERITAGE IN America...

Have you ever been to a Muslim hospital?

Have you heard a Muslim orchestra?

Have you seen a Muslim band march in a parade?

Have you witnessed a Muslim charity?

Have you seen Muslims shaking hands with a Muslim Girl Scouts?

Have you seen a Muslim Candy Striper?

Have you ever seen a Muslim do anything that contributes positively to the American way of life?


Thanks OrangeOkie, and yes, CHRISTIANS were behind education--schools, healthcare--hospitals, and elevating females above subservient and slave status in society. This is while Islam force feeds minors in a wicked dogma, kills innocent women and children in the name of Jihad; that is, when they are not stoning their own women or "circumsizing" them for various infractions.

Other than these minor differences, the Middle East, and now where ever they reach critical mass, is a pleasant place to live.

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#7767227 - 05/26/13 Re: Even if you are not Catholic. . . [Re: The_Real_Hawkeye]
curdog4570 Offline
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Registered: 02/18/01
Posts: 16050
Loc: North texas usa
Taking a bigger cut from the Bingo pot didn't help, either. grin
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#7767259 - 05/26/13 Re: Even if you are not Catholic. . . [Re: curdog4570]
HawkI Offline
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Registered: 06/10/07
Posts: 15958
Loc: The Hawkeye State
The problem with Catholic voters is that they (we) are Democrats before we are Catholics.

There is an indoctrination that somehow the Church finds true charity through the confusion of tithe in the tax code......

And yet the Church denies ObamaCare based on what? (Semantics mine).
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#7767355 - 05/26/13 Re: Even if you are not Catholic. . . [Re: HawkI]
oldtrapper Online   content
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Registered: 03/30/08
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It has always been a mystery to me how Catholics can be Dems.


The main problem this Lutheran has with Catholics in America is that there aren't enough good ones.
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#7767504 - 05/26/13 Re: Even if you are not Catholic. . . [Re: oldtrapper]
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Registered: 03/12/10
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I'm not catholic or luthern but i remember something about not judging or you will be judged. ED K

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#7767520 - 05/26/13 Re: Even if you are not Catholic. . . [Re: The_Real_Hawkeye]
Sharpsman Offline
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Registered: 04/17/10
Posts: 5180
Loc: Northeast Louisiana
Originally Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye
Prior to Vatican II, the Roman Catholic Church was on a course towards totally dominating the United States by way of conversions. Statisticians were forecasting a predominantly Roman Catholic United States within just a few decades. After Vatican II, converts essentially disappeared, and Catholic families started abandoning the Church by the droves. To them, it was like the Church was telling the world that it no longer believed in itself, abandoning practices and teachings from immemorial tradition.


Man....did you hit the nail on the head with that posting!

Hmmmm....whatever happened to Benediction???
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#7767544 - 05/26/13 Re: Even if you are not Catholic. . . [Re: oldtrapper]
HawkI Offline
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Registered: 06/10/07
Posts: 15958
Loc: The Hawkeye State
Originally Posted By: oldtrapper
It has always been a mystery to me how Catholics can be Dems.


The main problem this Lutheran has with Catholics in America is that there aren't enough good ones.


Many Catholics cannot render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's.....

Institutions oft are not incorrect in the eyes of thousands of years of history.
Men and leaders consumed with the short term have oft plagued us with thousands of examples in few years of such folly.
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#7767980 - 05/26/13 Re: Even if you are not Catholic. . . [Re: George_De_Vries_3rd]
kutenay Offline
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Registered: 03/15/04
Posts: 7739
Originally Posted By: George_De_Vries_3rd
Originally Posted By: OrangeOkie
EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT CATHOLIC, THIS IS EYE OPENING ...

When the Catholic Church was founded, there were no hospitals. Today, one out of five people in this country receive their medical care at a Catholic hospital.

When the Catholic Church was founded, there were no schools. Today, the Catholic Church teaches 3 million students a day, in its more than 250 Catholic Colleges and Universities, in its more than 1200 Catholic High Schools and its more than 5000 Catholic grade schools.

Every day, the Catholic Church feeds, clothes, shelters and educates more people than any other organization in the world.

The new Obama Health Mandate could end all this and the tax payers would have to make up the loss. Also, all Catholic adoption services would come to an end. A human disaster.

There are more than 77 million Catholics in this country. It takes an estimated 50 million Catholic votes to elect a president. I am asking all of you to go to the polls in 2014 and be united in replacing all Senators and Reps with someone who will respect the Catholic Church, all Christians, and all Religions besides Islam.

Mr. President, you said, "The USA is not a Christian Nation." You are wrong - we are a Christian Nation founded on Judeo-Christian values allowing all religions in America to Worship and Practice Freely. Something Islam will never do.

Oh, by the way, on MUSLIM HERITAGE IN America...

Have you ever been to a Muslim hospital?

Have you heard a Muslim orchestra?

Have you seen a Muslim band march in a parade?

Have you witnessed a Muslim charity?

Have you seen Muslims shaking hands with a Muslim Girl Scouts?

Have you seen a Muslim Candy Striper?

Have you ever seen a Muslim do anything that contributes positively to the American way of life?


Thanks OrangeOkie, and yes, CHRISTIANS were behind education--schools, healthcare--hospitals, and elevating females above subservient and slave status in society. This is while Islam force feeds minors in a wicked dogma, kills innocent women and children in the name of Jihad; that is, when they are not stoning their own women or "circumsizing" them for various infractions.

Other than these minor differences, the Middle East, and now where ever they reach critical mass, is a pleasant place to live.



This, is precisely the sort of deliberate distortion of both historical fact and what a member here actually posted that weakens the vital ability of this and other sites to combat the foul, evil and genocidal scourges of Islam, Communism and resurgent Nazism, as seen in current "Yurp".

"Christians", ARE NOT the religious group that "OO" posted about and the works by the Catholic Church, were and are not done by them. .

As to the comments concerning "Vatican II", this is an extreme and highly speculative opinion and one that tends to abjure and defy the teachings of "The Holy See".

As to Islam and that creature now in "The White House" wellllll, his very existence is an indication of the moral rot, the foul decay and the creeping evil of leftist secularism that is rapidly destroying Western Civilization.

I hope that the great nation to our south WILL awaken as, finally, after Pearl Harbour and get rid of him and his utterly revolting wife and ugly spawn.

The various Christian denominations have their own contributions to civilization to be proud of and some to be less so, however, they are not an aspect of the RC issues acknowledged above.

With that, I do think that the most productive method of containing the world enemy, the bloody savagery of Islam, would be a united "Judeo-Christian" front against these savages, all Commies and the "neo-Nazis" and a continued support of the moderate factions of Israel...and, that includes lending military assistance when/if needed, as I think it soon will be.

Can't you Yanks somehow impeach that disgrace to humankind and get a person like former Senator Bob Dole for POTUS....wouldn't THAT be a Godsend, at this crucial moment in our shared history!?

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#7767988 - 05/26/13 Re: Even if you are not Catholic. . . [Re: Sharpsman]
The_Real_Hawkeye Offline
Campfire Oracle

Registered: 06/12/02
Posts: 70618
Loc: Northern Florida
Originally Posted By: RMulhern
Man....did you hit the nail on the head with that posting!

Hmmmm....whatever happened to Benediction???
How Medieval of you.
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#7768227 - 05/26/13 Re: Even if you are not Catholic. . . [Re: kutenay]
George_De_Vries_3rd Offline
Campfire 'Bwana

Registered: 02/19/04
Posts: 10946
Loc: Iowa
Originally Posted By: kutenay
Originally Posted By: George_De_Vries_3rd
Originally Posted By: OrangeOkie
EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT CATHOLIC, THIS IS EYE OPENING ...

When the Catholic Church was founded, there were no hospitals. Today, one out of five people in this country receive their medical care at a Catholic hospital.

When the Catholic Church was founded, there were no schools. Today, the Catholic Church teaches 3 million students a day, in its more than 250 Catholic Colleges and Universities, in its more than 1200 Catholic High Schools and its more than 5000 Catholic grade schools.

Every day, the Catholic Church feeds, clothes, shelters and educates more people than any other organization in the world.

The new Obama Health Mandate could end all this and the tax payers would have to make up the loss. Also, all Catholic adoption services would come to an end. A human disaster.

There are more than 77 million Catholics in this country. It takes an estimated 50 million Catholic votes to elect a president. I am asking all of you to go to the polls in 2014 and be united in replacing all Senators and Reps with someone who will respect the Catholic Church, all Christians, and all Religions besides Islam.

Mr. President, you said, "The USA is not a Christian Nation." You are wrong - we are a Christian Nation founded on Judeo-Christian values allowing all religions in America to Worship and Practice Freely. Something Islam will never do.

Oh, by the way, on MUSLIM HERITAGE IN America...

Have you ever been to a Muslim hospital?

Have you heard a Muslim orchestra?

Have you seen a Muslim band march in a parade?

Have you witnessed a Muslim charity?

Have you seen Muslims shaking hands with a Muslim Girl Scouts?

Have you seen a Muslim Candy Striper?

Have you ever seen a Muslim do anything that contributes positively to the American way of life?


Thanks OrangeOkie, and yes, CHRISTIANS were behind education--schools, healthcare--hospitals, and elevating females above subservient and slave status in society. This is while Islam force feeds minors in a wicked dogma, kills innocent women and children in the name of Jihad; that is, when they are not stoning their own women or "circumsizing" them for various infractions.

Other than these minor differences, the Middle East, and now where ever they reach critical mass, is a pleasant place to live.



This, is precisely the sort of deliberate distortion of both historical fact and what a member here actually posted that weakens the vital ability of this and other sites to combat the foul, evil and genocidal scourges of Islam, Communism and resurgent Nazism, as seen in current "Yurp".

"Christians", ARE NOT the religious group that "OO" posted about and the works by the Catholic Church, were and are not done by them. .

As to the comments concerning "Vatican II", this is an extreme and highly speculative opinion and one that tends to abjure and defy the teachings of "The Holy See".

As to Islam and that creature now in "The White House" wellllll, his very existence is an indication of the moral rot, the foul decay and the creeping evil of leftist secularism that is rapidly destroying Western Civilization.

I hope that the great nation to our south WILL awaken as, finally, after Pearl Harbour and get rid of him and his utterly revolting wife and ugly spawn.

The various Christian denominations have their own contributions to civilization to be proud of and some to be less so, however, they are not an aspect of the RC issues acknowledged above.

With that, I do think that the most productive method of containing the world enemy, the bloody savagery of Islam, would be a united "Judeo-Christian" front against these savages, all Commies and the "neo-Nazis" and a continued support of the moderate factions of Israel...and, that includes lending military assistance when/if needed, as I think it soon will be.

Can't you Yanks somehow impeach that disgrace to humankind and get a person like former Senator Bob Dole for POTUS....wouldn't THAT be a Godsend, at this crucial moment in our shared history!?


Confused? I think we agree Kute.

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#7768246 - 05/26/13 Re: Even if you are not Catholic. . . [Re: George_De_Vries_3rd]
dogzapper Offline
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Registered: 03/19/03
Posts: 7764


Yup, Kute nailed it. Again.

I'm ever amazed that lapsed Catholics are such experts on the Church.

God Bless,

Steve
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#7768247 - 05/26/13 Re: Even if you are not Catholic. . . [Re: kutenay]
pal Offline
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Registered: 07/06/11
Posts: 4291
Loc: so cal
Originally Posted By: kutenay
...As to Islam and that creature now in "The White House" wellllll, his very existence is an indication of the moral rot, the foul decay and the creeping evil of leftist secularism that is rapidly destroying Western Civilization.

I hope that the great nation to our south WILL awaken as, finally, after Pearl Harbour and get rid of him and his utterly revolting wife and ugly spawn...


You do have a way with words.
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#7768251 - 05/26/13 Catholic, just not Roman Catholic . . . [Re: OrangeOkie]
Olaf Offline
Member

Registered: 03/27/13
Posts: 112
Originally Posted By: OrangeOkie
When the Catholic Church was founded . .


For the first 1000 years after Christ, there was only the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church of Jesus Christ. In 1054, the Bishop of Rome excommunicated the Bishop of Constantinople who promptly returned the favor.

The Roman Catholic denomination and the Easter Orthodox denominations were both founded in 1054.

In 1522, a German monk nailed his 95 Theses to the church door in Wittenberg, and Western Christendom fragmented into where we are today.

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#7768277 - 05/26/13 Re: Even if you are not Catholic. . . [Re: kutenay]
n007 Offline
Campfire Ranger

Registered: 12/19/02
Posts: 2416
Loc: Victoria, BC, Canada
Originally Posted By: kutenay
[quote=George_De_Vries_3rd][quote=OrangeOkie]live.
and ugly spawn.
[/quote

Hey Kutenay, WTF?

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#7768493 - 05/26/13 Re: Even if you are not Catholic. . . [Re: n007]
kutenay Offline
Campfire Outfitter

Registered: 03/15/04
Posts: 7739
The comment is directed at the progeny of "The Kenyan" and not at or to any other person or institution.

When, I was still living in Nelson, running my small, independent bookstore and very active in several aspects of conservation, MY "religion" if you care to know my actual spiritual foundation, the Anglican, United Church of Canada, retired Presbyterian and a Mormon clerics were ALL quite good friends of mine, especially the late Dean Alan Jackson, former Anglican Dean of Kootenay and one of the finest men I have ever had the genuine honour of knowing.

BUT, when it comes to that scrawney "boogaloo" in the White House, well, I go with the majority here in my feelings about him and I wish that he would retire to Kenya or maybe Saudi Arabia, where his sort belong...I ain't REAL keen on ANY relgion that practices "suicide bombing"......

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#7768528 - 05/26/13 Re: Even if you are not Catholic. . . [Re: edk]
oldtrapper Online   content
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Registered: 03/30/08
Posts: 7554
Loc: South Black Hills
Originally Posted By: edk
I'm not catholic or luthern but i remember something about not judging or you will be judged. ED K



Sorry ol head, that was not judgment, but wishing my Catholic brethren well in promulgating their moral doctrine. I wish there were more good orthodox Lutherans too. I wish I were better, too. ;-{>8
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#7768622 - 05/26/13 Re: Even if you are not Catholic. . . [Re: kutenay]
n007 Offline
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Registered: 12/19/02
Posts: 2416
Loc: Victoria, BC, Canada
Originally Posted By: kutenay
The comment is directed at the progeny of "The Kenyan" and not at or to any other person or institution.

"......


That was my point, WTF?

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#7769201 - 05/26/13 Re: Catholic, just not Roman Catholic . . . [Re: Olaf]
George_De_Vries_3rd Offline
Campfire 'Bwana

Registered: 02/19/04
Posts: 10946
Loc: Iowa

Well, there are some of us who consider "Christ-centered" Catholics Christian, and Christian non-Catholics the same. Who'd 'a thought? confused

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#7769326 - 05/27/13 Re: Even if you are not Catholic. . . [Re: OrangeOkie]
Timberlake Offline
Campfire Ranger

Registered: 10/04/05
Posts: 1536
Loc: NE Iowa
Originally Posted By: OrangeOkie

.......Mr. President, you said, "The USA is not a Christian Nation." You are wrong - we are a Christian Nation founded on Judeo-Christian values allowing all religions in America to Worship and Practice Freely. Something Islam will never do.

Oh, by the way, on MUSLIM HERITAGE IN America...

Have you ever been to a Muslim hospital?

Have you heard a Muslim orchestra?

Have you seen a Muslim band march in a parade?

Have you witnessed a Muslim charity?

Have you seen Muslims shaking hands with a Muslim Girl Scouts?

Have you seen a muslim(corr) Candy Striper?

Have you ever seen a muslim do anything that contributes positively to the American way of life?


I have yet to see anything positive come from the muslim civilization. I doubt I ever will, but I fear for my son and daughter and their children.

Given their history, I see no good in muslims in this country. After all, being a muslim is not akin to being a Lutheran or a Catholic, or any other Christian religion.

Being a muslim is a way of life. Not a religion. It's a way of life true Americans will not readily accept, save for a few key democrats now in power.

The word muslim does not deserve capitalisation in this post.
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