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#7810632 - 06/11/13 NSA, Government Hired Help Can Turn On Your Cell Phone
496 Offline
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Your Hired Help (NSA) can turn on your cell, even if it is off, and use it as a microphone to listen to what you are say in a room.

They all need to be fired. Time to hire new government officials! Maybe that is one of many tips the have received from China.
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#7810639 - 06/11/13 Re: NSA, Government Hired Help Can Turn On Your Cell Phone [Re: 496]
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Maybe the newer stuff.. Mine's so old, it came with a hand-crank and a female operator..
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#7810679 - 06/11/13 Re: NSA, Government Hired Help Can Turn On Your Cell Phone [Re: Redneck]
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Originally Posted By: Redneck
Maybe the newer stuff.. Mine's so old, it came with a hand-crank and a female operator..


I bet her name was Sarah.....

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#7810870 - 06/11/13 Re: NSA, Government Hired Help Can Turn On Your Cell Phone [Re: tndrbstr]
Theo Gallus Offline
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Anyone who watches Burn Notice ought to know this already.
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#7810877 - 06/11/13 Re: NSA, Government Hired Help Can Turn On Your Cell Phone [Re: 496]
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That's been able to be accomplished since the beginning of cell phones, nothing new there.

There is a reason one doesn't have a cell phone on them in secure locations. If you don't want anyone to hear your conversation (besides the person you are talking to face to face), don't have a cell phone present.
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#7810969 - 06/11/13 Re: NSA, Government Hired Help Can Turn On Your Cell Phone [Re: 496]
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To those of us who've had our eyes open for many years, not a single one of the recent revelations are the least bit surprising. It's the nature of the state to abuse power. Give a power to the state and it will be abused, sure as shootin.
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#7810984 - 06/11/13 Re: NSA, Government Hired Help Can Turn On Your Cell Phone [Re: The_Real_Hawkeye]
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#7811027 - 06/11/13 Re: NSA, Government Hired Help Can Turn On Your Cell Phone [Re: 496]
Cheesehunter Offline
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Originally Posted By: 496
Your Hired Help (NSA) can turn on your cell, even if it is off, and use it as a microphone to listen to what you are say in a room.


I am going to have to slightly disagree with this. Do you have a source for this information?
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#7811207 - 06/11/13 Re: NSA, Government Hired Help Can Turn On Your Cell Phone [Re: Cheesehunter]
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It can be done, I assure you.
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#7811226 - 06/11/13 Re: NSA, Government Hired Help Can Turn On Your Cell Phone [Re: Cheesehunter]
broomd Online   content
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Loc: Idaho
Originally Posted By: Cheesehunter
Originally Posted By: 496
Your Hired Help (NSA) can turn on your cell, even if it is off, and use it as a microphone to listen to what you are say in a room.


I am going to have to slightly disagree with this. Do you have a source for this information?
Respectfully, wake up and do your homework, this is OLD NEWS.

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#7811325 - 06/11/13 Re: NSA, Government Hired Help Can Turn On Your Cell Phone [Re: broomd]
Calhoun Offline
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http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2006/12/can_you_hear_me/

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Cell phone users, beware. The FBI can listen to everything you say, even when the cell phone is turned off. A recent court ruling in a case against the Genovese crime family revealed that the FBI has the ability from a remote location to activate a cell phone and turn its microphone into a listening device that transmits to an FBI listening post, a method known as a "roving bug." Experts say the only way to defeat it is to remove the cell phone battery. "The FBI can access cell phones and modify them remotely without ever having to physically handle them," James Atkinson, a counterintelligence security consultant, told ABC News. "Any recently manufactured cell phone has a built-in tracking device, which can allow eavesdroppers to pinpoint someone’s location to within just a few feet," he added.





http://news.cnet.com/2100-1029_3-6140191.html

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The FBI appears to have begun using a novel form of electronic surveillance in criminal investigations: remotely activating a mobile phone's microphone and using it to eavesdrop on nearby conversations.

The technique is called a "roving bug," and was approved by top U.S. Department of Justice officials for use against members of a New York organized crime family who were wary of conventional surveillance techniques such as tailing a suspect or wiretapping him.

Nextel cell phones owned by two alleged mobsters, John Ardito and his attorney Peter Peluso, were used by the FBI to listen in on nearby conversations. The FBI views Ardito as one of the most powerful men in the Genovese family, a major part of the national Mafia.

The surveillance technique came to light in an opinion published this week by U.S. District Judge Lewis Kaplan. He ruled that the "roving bug" was legal because federal wiretapping law is broad enough to permit eavesdropping even of conversations that take place near a suspect's cell phone.

Kaplan's opinion said that the eavesdropping technique "functioned whether the phone was powered on or off." Some handsets can't be fully powered down without removing the battery; for instance, some Nokia models will wake up when turned off if an alarm is set.

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#7811385 - 06/11/13 Re: NSA, Government Hired Help Can Turn On Your Cell Phone [Re: Calhoun]
Cheesehunter Offline
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Damn.
How smart are the Amish now?
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#7811413 - 06/11/13 Re: NSA, Government Hired Help Can Turn On Your Cell Phone [Re: Cheesehunter]
levrluvr Offline
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Registered: 03/23/09
Posts: 6001
Originally Posted By: Cheesehunter
Damn.
How smart are the Amish now?



Smart. They build good furniture, and a helluva barn.

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#7811416 - 06/11/13 Re: NSA, Government Hired Help Can Turn On Your Cell Phone [Re: 496]
oulufinn Offline
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They only do it for very good, and necessary reasons... Tick, tock.
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#7811522 - 06/11/13 Re: NSA, Government Hired Help Can Turn On Your Cell Phone [Re: oulufinn]
17ACKLEYBEE Offline
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Yep and then they can locate your terrorist ass with its GPS.
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#7811615 - 06/11/13 Re: NSA, Government Hired Help Can Turn On Your Cell Phone [Re: 17ACKLEYBEE]
Hone Offline
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Registered: 12/31/12
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I never knew that , but it doesn't surprise me one bit
I don't have a personal phone , just a company one and i don't really want that either

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#7811622 - 06/12/13 Re: NSA, Government Hired Help Can Turn On Your Cell Phone [Re: 496]
JSTUART Offline
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NSA, Government Hired Help Can Turn On Your Cell Phone

Well, post their number so that I can contact them the next time I lose my rotten phone.

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#7811628 - 06/12/13 Re: NSA, Government Hired Help Can Turn On Your Cell Phone [Re: Hone]
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Originally Posted By: Hone
I never knew that , but it doesn't surprise me one bit
I don't have a personal phone , just a company one and i don't really want that either


Bet the government has that number and knows who's pocket it is in.
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