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Since I had the spreadsheet setup, I figured it would be fun to compare the perceived corruption levels of the various religions.

So across 176 countries and regions I compared the Transparency International Corruption perception index (0-100 with 100 being bad) to the CIA factbook religious breakdown of these countries.

Here's the results least to most corrupt:

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Unaffiliated	  16.37
Jewish	          30.79
Hindu	          53.12
Christian	  55.18
Buddhist	  61.62
Muslim	          69.51
Folk Religion	 115.60




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It doesn't show animal rights activism, extreme environmentalism, evolutionism, liberalism, man-caused global warmingism, or atheism. I would have expected those to top the list. : ) (forgot big governmentism)

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Originally Posted by Tim_in_Nv
It doesn't show animal rights activism, extreme environmentalism, evolutionism, liberalism, man-caused global warmingism, or atheism. I would have expected those to top the list. : ) (forgot big governmentism)


Good point Tim.
Unaffiliated includes your Atheist and Agnostics.

Folk religion includes Voodoo, santeria, many local African religions, and religions based on superstition, such as the "throw the virgin in the volcano" religions. By this definition the ELF/ALF tree huggers seen to fit the Folk Religion category.


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You forgot the religion of Liberalism.


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i thought every body thought Jew's were corrupt and money hungry. My sister says the Jews have big noses because air is free. (she thinks we have Jewish blood)


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Originally Posted by eyeball
You forgot the religion of Liberalism.


Eyeball, I haven't forgot about them, I just haven't found a good empirical way to measure them yet.

I'm looking for a good measure of Communist, Socialist, Capitalist within my sample set, but every counties has different party names designed to hide who and what they really are.

As an example, "Liberals" in our country fail to meet the traditional definition of Liberal. They are really Socialist/Communist.


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Oh, ok. grin


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Understand that everybody who claims to be a Christian is not necessarily Christian. Jesus said there will be many on that day (Judgment Day) who say they did such and such and He'll say to them, "Depart from me, you who practice iniquity. I never knew you." This is paraphrased, of course. If needed I can quote chapter and verse but you can look it up just as easily as I can.

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The most corrupt religion? Has to be the Democratic party!

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Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Since I had the spreadsheet setup, I figured it would be fun to compare the perceived corruption levels of the various religions.

So across 176 countries and regions I compared the Transparency International Corruption perception index (0-100 with 100 being bad) to the CIA factbook religious breakdown of these countries.

Here's the results least to most corrupt:

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Religion        Corruption

Unaffiliated	  16.37
Jewish	          30.79
Hindu	          53.12
Christian	  55.18
Buddhist	  61.62
Muslim	          69.51
Folk Religion	 115.60




Not sure what you've done here?

You've looked the TIC perception index for each country, and then looked up the predominant religion of that country and then assumed the TIC Perception Index score relates to that religion?

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The most corrupt is me-ism. Always has been always will be.


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Originally Posted by oldtrapper
The most corrupt is me-ism. Always has been always will be.


This is very true.

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It doesn't show animal rights activism, extreme environmentalism, evolutionism, liberalism, man-caused global warmingism, or atheism. I would have expected those to top the list. : ) (forgot big governmentism)


Good point Tim.
Unaffiliated includes your Atheist and Agnostics.

Folk religion includes Voodoo, santeria, many local African religions, and religions based on superstition, such as the "throw the virgin in the volcano" religions. By this definition the ELF/ALF tree huggers seen to fit the Folk Religion category.


First thought when I seen Folk Religion and the numbers: Hatfields and McCoys. smile

Goes to show what I know.

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Originally Posted by Pete E
Originally Posted by antelope_sniper
Since I had the spreadsheet setup, I figured it would be fun to compare the perceived corruption levels of the various religions.

So across 176 countries and regions I compared the Transparency International Corruption perception index (0-100 with 100 being bad) to the CIA factbook religious breakdown of these countries.

Here's the results least to most corrupt:

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Religion        Corruption

Unaffiliated	  16.37
Jewish	          30.79
Hindu	          53.12
Christian	  55.18
Buddhist	  61.62
Muslim	          69.51
Folk Religion	 115.60




Not sure what you've done here?

You've looked the TIC perception index for each country, and then looked up the predominant religion of that country and then assumed the TIC Perception Index score relates to that religion?


It's a little more complicate then that. What I did is called Regression analysis


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What's the meaning of corruption for the purposes of your chart? If it means the religion people will attempt to practice resulting with the most hypocrisy or straying from it's postulates, Christianity would have to win. Not because it's the worst, to the contrary, but because it calls people to be something they can't be by nature. They are called to be something more than they often can or want to be. To bridge that divide God affords men salvation, because no one or nothing else can.


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Ricky, I used a more worldly, less theological measure of corruption.

Here my source: Transparency International 2012 Corruption perception index.

I actually used the inverse of the index to make it easier to interpret.


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Originally Posted by MColeman
Understand that everybody who claims to be a Christian is not necessarily Christian. Jesus said there will be many on that day (Judgment Day) who say they did such and such and He'll say to them, "Depart from me, you who practice iniquity. I never knew you." This is paraphrased, of course. If needed I can quote chapter and verse but you can look it up just as easily as I can.
It's been that way all through history. A whole bunch of Catholics who ran the Inquisition, for example, got a real shock when they died. They called themselves Christians but were anything but.


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Where's Humanism? Many adherents of Humanism refer to it as a religion. Sounds like it could be rather corrupt.


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Where's Humanism? Many adherents of Humanism refer to it as a religion. Sounds like it could be rather corrupt.


Humanism actually spans most of the religions. Martin Luther is largely regarded as a Humanist, along Thomas Paine. TS Elliott is considered a Polemic Humanist, where Carl Sagan is was classified a Skeptic Humanist. The Early Islamic Philosophers were also classified as Humanist, but that went out the window with Al Gasazi (sp?) in the 11th century.

The primary defining trait of a humanist is they are guided by reason, and not superstition. As a consequence the secular humanist are largely in the top category, at the opposite end of the spectrum from Voodoo and other Folk religions.


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There is much that is wrong with your little study -- primarily garbage in/garbage out.

Martin Luther was no Humanist, though Humanists like to claim him because he stood up to the authorities of the day.

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