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Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
I've used the Latigo for years. Recently I got a Montana sling and feel it's the best yet. It's super simple and sometimes simple is best.

This sling was developed by Scenarshooter (Pat) and he should know a thing or two about shooting and slings.DF


My hat is off to him. It is a GREAT sling. I have about 3-4 of them now and will have one for all the rifles eventually.


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Back on topic: I am happy for those who appear jazzed over the prospects of a new cartridge and rifle. However let me remind you that we are in a new era where politics butts up against the 2A - big time.
We are still in a significant shortage period of .22 lr's, sporadic 9mm, 40cal. and .45 ACP ammo, shortages of powder, primers, brass plus a whole host of factory ammo. IMHO the last thing we need is another cartridge in the face of all this. I don't care if you can hold "on" to 400 yards, there are others already in place that can do that very thing.

Consider the .17 Hornet. There are rifles to buy but very little in the way of factory or component availability. Consider the 280AI - you see very little talk about it. It seems Nosler is trying to gin up the marketplace for those whose dobber is down. The "market" will decide the winners and losers no matter how many blog pages there are or glowing reviews in various publications.

I ask you, how many different cartridges are needed to humanely kill big game at 400 yards or less?

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That is quite a few. shocked

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I thought it was 1782, wonder which one I missed? grin

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Originally Posted by bigwhoop
However let me remind you that we are in a new era where politics butts up against the 2A - big time.

We are still in a significant shortage period of .22 lr's, sporadic 9mm, 40cal. and .45 ACP ammo, shortages of powder, primers, brass plus a whole host of factory ammo.....

I ask you, how many different cartridges are needed to humanely kill big game at 400 yards or less?


Wow. Are you saying the shortages are caused by politics?

As far as how many cartridges are needed, the answer is one, but so what? Are we all going to shoot .30-06's from now on? If Nosler can develop, market, and sell rifles in the new chambering (it'll sell) then why shouldn't they? Isn't that capitalism at its best?



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I've used the Latigo for years. Recently I got a Montana sling and feel it's the best yet. It's super simple and sometimes simple is best.

This sling was developed by Scenarshooter (Pat) and he should know a thing or two about shooting and slings.DF


My hat is off to him. It is a GREAT sling. I have about 3-4 of them now and will have one for all the rifles eventually.


That is good to know, thanks. Do you guys favor one width over the other?



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I ask you, how many different cartridges are needed to humanely kill big game at 400 yards or less?


It certainly appears Nosler and I think it is one more. I made a wildcat .257. They are making a factory .264. I hope they are as happy with theirs as I am with mine. The difference is I'm the only one affected by my new cartridge. In Nosler's case If they are happy with theirs then that means lots of people are happy with theirs.


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I ask you, how many different cartridges are needed to humanely kill big game at 400 yards or less?


All the market will bear.


You didn't use logic or reason to get into this opinion, I cannot use logic or reason to get you out of it.

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Well i hope kimber chambers it cause i find nosler 48 a very ugly rifle and way overpriced... Better yet a model 70 in the extreme weather.


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Then STFU. The rest of your statement is superflous bullshit with no real bearing on this discussion other than to massage your own ego.

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Twas my first thought, this would be great in a 84L Montana.

Been thinking of having a 6.5-06 put together, but may just wait on the Nosler. I do hope other rifle makers offer the 26 Nosler.

Any word on what length barrel the Nosler rifle will require?


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Originally Posted by Mule Deer
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Shazam! Now I have the definitive answer for those times where someone foolishly asks how many rifles I need. And I can quote the authority on the subject.


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Originally Posted by Seven_Heaven

Any word on what length barrel the Nosler rifle will require?


Probably 26" everyone "knows" it will require at least that and maybe 28 or 30" otherwise it will just be a loud 264 WM grin

I do hope they come out with an affordable gun to and not just one of their high dollar guns, right now we just can't afford one. Maybe they can convince Tikka or Savage to make some to for the rest of us who can't afford $2000+ on a gun.


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Nosler should have talked to a few 1000 yard BR shooters who have chased their tails with 6.5 x 284's and have the worn out barrels to prove it. You better have a tuner on your barrel if you want to push 140 grain and similar bullets that fast or be prepared to live with a lot of vertical at long range.

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Agreed on the rifle offerings, something in the 1k price range will help this cartridge gain foothold. An extreme weather would be sweet for sure. I'll try one if I can get it in something less than 2 grand and not a salvage...

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Originally Posted by bugs4
Nosler should have talked to a few 1000 yard BR shooters who have chased their tails with 6.5 x 284's and have the worn out barrels to prove it. You better have a tuner on your barrel if you want to push 140 grain and similar bullets that fast or be prepared to live with a lot of vertical at long range.


thats what happened to me when I got much beyond 6.5-284 speeds with the 264, accuracy while still right at MOA, wasn't the half MOA I wanted anymore.

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Originally Posted by tedthorn
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Will soon follow


And Dakota was there with them a LONG time ago.

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And Dakota was there with them a LONG time ago.

Zzzz...


How much money did Nosler make off those offerings?

That's why they are coming out with their own.


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Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by bigwhoop
However let me remind you that we are in a new era where politics butts up against the 2A - big time.

We are still in a significant shortage period of .22 lr's, sporadic 9mm, 40cal. and .45 ACP ammo, shortages of powder, primers, brass plus a whole host of factory ammo.....

I ask you, how many different cartridges are needed to humanely kill big game at 400 yards or less?


Wow. Are you saying the shortages are caused by politics?

As far as how many cartridges are needed, the answer is one, but so what? Are we all going to shoot .30-06's from now on? If Nosler can develop, market, and sell rifles in the new chambering (it'll sell) then why shouldn't they? Isn't that capitalism at its best?


Nice try. You left off the first senctence which gave encouragement to those excited about another new 26 cal. cartridge. I'm all for capitalism - 110%.

You don't think this last round of shortages was not the result of politics? You just can't watch CNN and MSNBC and call it news.

I credit Nosler for their willingness to tread out there on the edge of economic success. I guess there will always be those who like to chase the newest, bestest, flattest and hard hittenist cartridge out there. I'll be cheering for you from the sidelines.

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