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I have the KOM stuff and will use it tomorrow in -10-15 wind chills as I try to 45 some venison. I do find wind will go through it so I have to layer a wind blocker in up top. My stuff though wears like iron and is 15-20 years old. I find Filsons wool just as good though it is not washable but you'd better be very careful washing any KOM stuff too. I did have one KOM piece shrink two sizes after a cold water wash and air dry; may have been a QC miss but they replaced it speedily.
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George,
I have a KOM wool shirt...their mid weight version. I bought it on flea bay, it was a XXL size. I purposely shrunk it, now it fits perfectly...size XL with nice room to layer.
Tony
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I had sets of both KOM and SI. JMO of course, but with today's clothing technologies there are better, warmer, more flexible and MUCH lighter ways to stay warm.
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I had sets of both KOM and SI. JMO of course, but with today's clothing technologies there are better, warmer, more flexible and MUCH lighter ways to stay warm. I agree with that,too. But I still use the SI and KOM once in awhile locally though;usually the shirt.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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i'll be in my SI today. nothing else like it when it is bone chilling cold.
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Bob,
I don't hunt anywhere in frigid temps without my KOM Bomber hat - I kept that!!
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I had sets of both KOM and SI. JMO of course, but with today's clothing technologies there are better, warmer, more flexible and MUCH lighter ways to stay warm. No argument there particularly with Filson's 24 oz/yd wools--heavy, heavy. Especially that double Mac Cruiser. But, I still like wool for warm and quiet.
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George,
Yep. Wool wins "quiet" every time.
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Everything is expensive in Jackson Hole! Great wool, I toured the operation a long time ago. I once lost a pair of sleeping Indian pants in a poker game at deer camp. Hmmmmm... Not that there is anything wrong with that, but we never played strip poker at any of the hunting clubs to which I have belonged.  John
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500.00 for a pair of pants, YGTBFKM Looks like somebody woke up. Can't compete with Chinese slave labor with prices like that.
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I have never used either. Are the Mackinaw close? [img:center] http://www.filson.com/products/mackinaw-field-pants.14010.html[/img]
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Everything is expensive in Jackson Hole! Great wool, I toured the operation a long time ago. I once lost a pair of sleeping Indian pants in a poker game at deer camp. Hmmmmm... Not that there is anything wrong with that, but we never played strip poker at any of the hunting clubs to which I have belonged. John I didn't say I was wearing them at the time. Maybe you are having a fantasy?
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wabigoon: Hard to find a better wool pant than the Filson Mackinaw. Used them for years and in New England nothing else sees much use for me during deer season. Of course when I bought mine they didn't cost $245 bucks either! The SI and KOM are a solid notch warmer and frankly they get used very little outside Canada(I have had bibs from both,not regular pants). The bibs are ridiculous and it has been hard to find a niche for them here, outside Manitoba and Saskatchewan. Last year I sold my KOM parka and bibs; kept the shirt and bomber jacket. Have my SI parka and bibs still. Skane/George/Sam: About zero here, post storm front and a foot of snow....I will likely go the range today,and the SI bibs and parka will be with me for rolling around in the snow at 500 yards....still useful stuff and top quality but in truth they do not see much use here...it just never gets cold enough really during November hunting seasons.Canada is a different story.
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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Bob, you're not a hot-blooded Italian are you? 
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West German milsurp wool cargo pants are tough to top.
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Are you thinking of selling any of your Sleeping Indian wool clothing? If so I am looking to buy certain pieces. Please contact me via my email: herbette  exploria.net
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Who else compares to Sleeping Indian?
The KOM prices have increased a lot; seems unreasonable.
Any other wool makers filling this void?
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The label "Sleeping Indian" denotes laziness and is an insult to our native American friends, so I for one am glad it is gone! "Drunken Indian" would have been a more honest moniker don't you think?  Sorry, but I couldn't resist.
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Have not used it but this stuff looks good. Not cheap. http://weatherwool.com
The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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