|
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 646
Campfire Regular
|
OP
Campfire Regular
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 646 |
Will the advertised 9 1/4" twist rate in Remington Model 700's stabilize the Hornady 105 Grain A-Max bullet? If so, would this bullet be OK for Mule Deer and Antelope? On Midway website it says this bullet is not suitable for hunting. I know that Boxer uses them but I don't know about the distances he is shooting. Any experience with these bullets on game that you would care to share? I've got some 95 Grain Nosler BT/CT's and some Sierra 100 Grain BT's but I guess I'm wondering if the added BC is worth it if the terminal performance suffers. I'll be trying what I have in stock to see how they shoot when this extreme cold backs off some. Thanks.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 16,512
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 16,512 |
Yes, but if you are shooting under 400 yds, If me, a 95 NBT would be my first pick hands down, reports tell of kills over 500+ fwiw. An Amax will blow on close shots esp on bone, so shot placement very sensitive at high vel.
Amax has shot well - under MOA in an XCR M7 20", and 24" 700, but not as tight as the 95s...
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 872
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 872 |
I couldn't agree more with your opinion of the 95gr bst.I have taken tons of game with it in the woods and out to 450 yds. I have also personally witnessed some first hit kills much further out than that. It's just a helluva bullet and has imo a perfect balance of penetration and expansion.
"The world breaks everyone,and afterward, some are strong at the broken places" Hemingway
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 3,893
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 3,893 |
I've shot a bamillion .243" 95NBT's.
Pass the 105's and get outta the [bleep] way.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,117
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,117 |
How many 'Max's have you actually "blown" on bone? Heres a 105 AMAX from a 50 yard neck/spine shot, no cup core separation, retained 47% of its weight and put the bucks face in the dirt where it stood. Feel free to add this to your list of "reports".
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 23,383
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 23,383 |
My buddy can't get them to stabilize in his factory 700.
They work fine on deer, as well as the Scenar and VLD. 105s hit hard.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 23,383
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 23,383 |
An Amax will blow on close shots esp on bone, so shot placement very sensitive at high vel.
No way. I've smoked several nice bucks at close range with the 105 amax out of a 243ai.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 24,616
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 24,616 |
I've said it before and here it is again. 173 yards Sucks 243ai 105 a-max. Dead elk. This rifle is a flat out killer........
Have Dog
Will Travel
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 872
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 872 |
My Kimber won't stabilize the Amax's.
"The world breaks everyone,and afterward, some are strong at the broken places" Hemingway
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 53
Campfire Greenhorn
|
Campfire Greenhorn
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 53 |
I don't have any experience with the a - max but the 95 gr. NBT is deadly and accurate too.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14,475
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 14,475 |
All from this year: Between 83 and 419 yards. Critters died and blood trails abounded. Fear not. R700 SPS-V barrel re-chambered to .243AI It stabilizes just fine in my rifle.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 5,154
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 5,154 |
Are the 105's back in production? I heard Hornady was temporarily halting production. I tried a few and they shot well, but I've moved on to 115's since my barrel is twisted to handle them.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 8,923
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 8,923 |
I've said it before and here it is again. 173 yards Sucks 243ai 105 a-max. Dead elk. This rifle is a flat out killer........
Travis, where did you hit the Elk and did it pass through?
Dave
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,306
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,306 |
What rifles handle the 105s well?
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 24,616
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 24,616 |
I've said it before and here it is again. 173 yards Sucks 243ai 105 a-max. Dead elk. This rifle is a flat out killer........
Travis, where did you hit the Elk and did it pass through? I'm not Travis, but I'll give it a go. High shoulder and no. It stopped in the bottom of the spine. The animal never took another step.
Have Dog
Will Travel
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 18,911
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 18,911 |
I've said it before and here it is again. 173 yards Sucks 243ai 105 a-max. Dead elk. This rifle is a flat out killer........ I call BS, no way that elk was killed with a 243.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 24,616
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Mar 2009
Posts: 24,616 |
Have Dog
Will Travel
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 18,911
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Apr 2009
Posts: 18,911 |
Is that a pet?
Did you teach him to play dead like that?
I've read right here that a 243 is barely big enough for deer.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 9,486
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 9,486 |
My Kimber won't stabilize the Amax's. That's because your Kimber is 1:10.
I can walk on water.......................but I do stagger a bit on alcohol.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 861
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 861 |
Is that a pet?
Did you teach him to play dead like that?
I've read right here that a 243 is barely big enough for deer. You must have been reading wrong.I've been reading here that .243 won't kill a deer period.
|
|
|
|
637 members (06hunter59, 1eyedmule, 007FJ, 1beaver_shooter, 160user, 1936M71, 66 invisible),
3,266
guests, and
1,232
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,190,590
Posts18,454,293
Members73,908
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|