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A guy over at Sniper's Hide is selling a kit for a ZS for most of the SWFA SS scopes. The problem with a factory ZS is they can't know your gun or where exactly it'll zero. That plastic shim kit comes with a variety of sizes, you just pick the appropriate pieces and sand to fine tune it once you get your rifle/scope dialed in.

Sounds like a good job for a 3D printer. I'll have a look when things slow down at work. Easy to print the thickness needed or a shim stack.

Jason

FWIW, I just sold my 3-15. It was just too much scope for hunting and not enough for tactical comps. I now am rocking matching 3-9's on my hunting rifles and am much happier.

For my comp gun I am going to go to either a SWFA 5-20 or a Bushy 3.5-21 G2DMR. The 3-15 seems to be tweener that I can't find the right use for. It is a shame because I really liked the 3-15 package.

As always, YMMV.

I like the 42mm part vs. a 50mm on most other tacti-cool scopes, but you're right... different needs and wants.

Mentioned this on another thread but once I install a rail, low rings, and 50mm I have needed a kydex taco in the past. A 42mm with low mounts sans rail lets me avoid the taco, but might not be suitable for the same application as the railed 50mm. A 42mm on a rail usually isn't any better than a 50mm anyway since both have good clearance with the rings stacked on the rail.

I haven't always been able to get the 50mm as low, even without the rail. So yeah, mebbe the 3-15x is a tweener. Good for applications where you can run it low.

Jason

'ology,

The PMTJ on the CZ's is a better route than the yodave.










Anywhoo...I'm 'bout 3500rds into Fixed [bleep] Territory after today and all is well. Got to shake The Hurt Locker out to 1142yds and it stole the show. Purty good day,for seein' what do what in the wind and more importantly why.

Conditions sorta changed.(grin)




A coupla more 6x MilQuad's got solded today,for some reason.(grin)

I have and, no.









It's in the glass. Whether it is worth it or not is up to you. I would not pay the extra for a 10x HD personally. There is no target that the HD would let me see that the standard 10x wouldn't.











In short- better erector springs and design, better quality control on springs, screws and tubes and better materials in the erector, equals better more reliable and correct adjustments and thicker tubes help keep outside interference from screwing with that.














It's not that they don't know how, it's that hunters don't shoot, and all they care about is bs'ing their buddies with how great the glass is when they gently pull their "serious" hunting rifle out of the padded case that was inside their padded safe. God forgive if their "serious" rifle gets a mark on it....














The turrets don't move inadvertently. The reticle is as bold as most duplex's. The reticle covers up the same amount at high power as it does at low power.


I have fixed and variable SS's. They all work.











There is no other manufacturers that make a FFP mil reticle like SWFA's Mil quad that I've seen. It's the best FFP reticle I've seen for general hunting.

looks like it is thick and bold enough for low light work. Would you agree ?

Form,
Thanks for answering my questions.
A friend ordered the 3-9 and the 3-15.
I'll go look at his when I can.

Completely.

Formi,

Do you have any details on the actual designs? Gimbal and leaf spring? Or something like Swaro and Simmons use with springs at the end of the erector?

Throw the technical stuff at us if you have it. Would like to hear what you know about the details. We've been speculating that the designs are better, but as of yet nobody has spilled the beans as to what "better" actually means.

Thanks,

Jason

I will not buy another variable scope ever. I am done with them. Sell variables, replace with fixed.

jimmyp,
I'm reading here that a lot of guys are getting away from variables.
I'm not trying to be a smart alec, but would you tell me why you decided to? Formidilosus said that the variable SS work, so, esp. since the are the same weight, (6 vs. 3-9) what is the downside of the variable?
i guess I just need to hunt a fixed and see!

Look at Weaver's EMDR. It's very similar. Also very useful for hunting toward higher mag, but not so great for the conditions I described at low mag. Certainly as good as a fine to possibly medium crosshair, but those aren't great for hunting under the conditions I described.

BTDT. It is not designed properly for low powered use.

Nor is it similar...

LOL! Nearly identical in layout and in every subtension/dimension, actually.
This does highlight how different people's subjective impressions of objectively-measurable realities can be, though. I'm going to use this exchange (anonymized, of course) in a communication challenges training seminar this afternoon.

Have you ever used a Mil quad reticle?

Hard to imagine someone believing that this-





Is nearly identical visually as this-




If they've actually used both. So while I agree you should use this exchange in your seminar, maybe instead talk about wrong impressions. Of course if someone had actually spent time with either they would realize that there is quite a bit of difference visually between a hollow post reticle and solid posts, over twice as thick posts, thicker crosshairs, and 4 posts versus 3.....

You must be using trick photography.......lol

My super chicken 10x42 arrived this afternoon. Still awaiting the CZ in order to get everything mounted. However, a quick finger fondle and gawk through the scope leaves me with a positive first impression.

I'm not a fan of cluttered reticles (dots, hashes, christmas trees, etc.) so I'm still a little hesitant and on the fence on how whether or not I'm likely to warm up to the MRAD. For my intended purpose, should be better than fine once I get past my comfort level and prejudices.

Turrets have positive clicks. Scope appears to be stout. Might be able to pound tent stakes into the ground with it and still keep rocking.

Only one way to find out......