|
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 22,274
Campfire Ranger
|
OP
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 22,274 |
...16 inch battle ship guns aboard the USS Missouri a photo of it at the dock, illustrating how big it really is: The Mo is docked about 1/4 mile from the Arizona memorial. When you see all the names, you realize how many people died in an instant. Also impressive, the number of survivors who chose to have their ashes placed in the wreck. This photo looks into the MIssouri's fire control room. Yes, that armor is a foot thick. It is a very worthwhile trip, seeing the AZ Memorial, where the war started, and then going to the battleship where it ended. I recommend it to anyone. The only downside was coming back home, and coming down with a 101.7� fever
Last edited by tex_n_cal; 02/13/14. Reason: clarified
"...the designer of the .270 Ingwe cartridge!..."
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 17,904
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 17,904 |
"To compel a man to furnish funds for the propagation of ideas he disbelieves and abhors is sinful and tyrannical." -- Thomas Jefferson
We are all Rhodesians now.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 39,301
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 39,301 |
There is a bronze plate in the deck where the treaty was signed. I once reenlisted standing in front of it. For several years I spent my reserve active duty time at the sub base PH. Every time I was in Hawaii I visited the Arizona Memorial. I cried every time.
The first time I shot myself in the head...
Meniere's Sucks Big Time!!!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 308
Campfire Member
|
Campfire Member
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 308 |
You know you're into serious long range shooting when a successful firing solution requires factoring in the Earth's rotation.
Life - and the good sense to live it!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 4,572
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 4,572 |
Tex:
Did you by chance go through the WW II sub that is moored in the same area? We really enjoyed walked through it.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 113
Campfire Member
|
Campfire Member
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 113 |
The Arizona is absolutely worth the trip to Hawaii even if that is the only thing you go see. My wife's uncle is a survivor, last I heard there were only 8 or 9 left. When we were there in 2007 there were 28 living survivors.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 59,134
Campfire Kahuna
|
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 59,134 |
There is a bronze plate in the deck where the treaty was signed. I once reenlisted standing in front of it. For several years I spent my reserve active duty time at the sub base PH. Every time I was in Hawaii I visited the Arizona Memorial. I cried every time. Dang - that was one thing I missed during my 4 visits to the sub base, touring the AZ memorial.. The pic of that foot-thick door amazed me. I had NO idea it would be that think. I'd love to visit a battlewagon - it was my second choice of duty if I failed getting a sub.. Tex:
Did you by chance go through the WW II sub that is moored in the same area? We really enjoyed walked through it. USS Bowfin?
Ex- USN (SS) '66-'69 Pro-Constitution. LET'S GO BRANDON!!!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 31,601
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 31,601 |
So??? Which one of those in the Japanese delegation is packing Coach Chevigny's Norte Dame fountain pen??? http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Chevigny
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
WS
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 12,613
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 12,613 |
I've had the opportunity to go thru the USS Alabama docked in Mobile a couple of times. Standing close to a 16" projectile is a reality check. As well, seeing the work area for those feeding the guns powder & ball. There's also a small sub docked there. Can't remember the name but touring it is another reality check. It redefined claustrophobia. Then there was the B-52. Holy cow. Just standing under the drooped wings was amazing.
“When Tyranny becomes Law, Rebellion becomes Duty”
Colossians 3:17 (New King James Version) "And whatever you do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him."
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 24,239
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 24,239 |
What's the fountain pen story? Didn't find it in the link.
[but it's an established fact that I sit in the "slow section" around the 'fire]
Never holler whoa or look back in a tight place
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,871
Campfire Regular
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,871 |
Follow the link and click on Biography. You'll see the story of the pen.
Bob
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 31,601
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 31,601 |
What's the fountain pen story? Didn't find it in the link.
[but it's an established fact that I sit in the "slow section" around the 'fire] I've often thought it was more of a legend than fact. I was under the impression that the vast majority of Japanese troops and sailors on Iwo staid on Iwo. No way to get the pen off the island. I would have thought any plane or sub leaving that island after the first assault would have been turned into Swiss cheese! Heck even the Japanese high school boys that were there on a field trip and trapped were issued weapons of some kind!
Founder Ancient Order of the 1895 Winchester
"Come, shall we go and kill us venison? And yet it irks me the poor dappled fools, Being native burghers of this desert city, Should in their own confines with forked heads Have their round haunches gored."
WS
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 39,301
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 39,301 |
There is a bronze plate in the deck where the treaty was signed. I once reenlisted standing in front of it. For several years I spent my reserve active duty time at the sub base PH. Every time I was in Hawaii I visited the Arizona Memorial. I cried every time. Dang - that was one thing I missed during my 4 visits to the sub base, touring the AZ memorial.. I cheated. I was a reservist working at the Trident base in Bangor, WA, The Missouri was still in mothballs in Bremerton but was open to the public. It was special to me it two ways. I was in DC A school in Philly in 68 when they were bringing her out of mothballs to put her back to work. I also got to spend most of a day exploring the Texas several years ago. A good friend in Houston is part of the crew of veteran volunteers working on the restoration. To be able to crawl around the two old battle proven triple expansion steam engine was wonderful.
The first time I shot myself in the head...
Meniere's Sucks Big Time!!!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 25,088
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 25,088 |
Very cool!
My buddy Bob Bishop served on the Big Mo in WWII. He went on his greatest adventure the summer before last.
Godspeed to all who served!
“Life is life and fun is fun, but it's all so quiet when the goldfish die.”
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 6,969
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 6,969 |
12" thick armor; I think we still need some ships like that.
I suspect that most of you know that NORAD is located in my home town. One day I was talking to the commander of NORAD at a party and I lamented that none of our Iowa-class battleships were in active service. He said that we didn't need ships with the ability to take a lickin' and keep on tickin' because our modern defenses were so potent that our ships would never get hit.
I think that's head-in-the-sand thinking. Throughout history we have always developed new ways to attack new defenses.
During the Falklands War in 1982, it took only one Exocet Missile to sink the British destroyer HMS Sheffield. Two other British ships, the HMS Coventry and the HMS Ardent, were also sunk during the war. It took only one torpedo launched from a jet based on an aircraft carrier to sink the Argentine light cruiser ARA General Belgrano. How short people's memories can be.
KC
Wind in my hair, Sun on my face, I gazed at the wide open spaces, And I was at home.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 19,045
Campfire Ranger
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 19,045 |
Back in the late 1960s my Grandad took us kids to tour the USS Missouri, in Bremerton WA. I thought it was really cool. Then in the late 1980s, when it was recommissioned, I had the fortune to be on the aerial observer team, that called the fire missions during her firing quals at San Celmente Island CA. We were shooting 1900 lb High Explosive projectiles from about 16 miles offshore, and observing from a Huey. Did adjustments with one gun, then full 9-gun broadsides in the Fire For Effect. It was truly awesome. Prefire Brief at Long Beach CA, I'm on the left. Live-fire at San Clemente Island CA, a couple of projos visible in flight,
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,455
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,455 |
We toured the New Jersey when we were in Philly last summer. Battleships are very cool, see one of them if you get a chance.
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 7,589
Campfire Outfitter
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 7,589 |
I've had the opportunity to go thru the USS Alabama docked in Mobile a couple of times. Standing close to a 16" projectile is a reality check. As well, seeing the work area for those feeding the guns powder & ball. There's also a small sub docked there. Can't remember the name but touring it is another reality check. It redefined claustrophobia. Then there was the B-52. Holy cow. Just standing under the drooped wings was amazing. Toured the USS Missouri before it was hijacked from PSNS Bremerton where it was mothballed to Hawaii. I also toured the WWII German Sub at the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago back in 1959 when I was stationed at Great Lakes Training Center and yes you are right it does redefine the term claustrophobia.
de 73's Archie - W7ACT
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 39,301
Campfire 'Bwana
|
Campfire 'Bwana
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 39,301 |
I've had the opportunity to go thru the USS Alabama docked in Mobile a couple of times. Standing close to a 16" projectile is a reality check. As well, seeing the work area for those feeding the guns powder & ball. There's also a small sub docked there. Can't remember the name but touring it is another reality check. It redefined claustrophobia. Then there was the B-52. Holy cow. Just standing under the drooped wings was amazing. Toured the USS Missouri before it was hijacked from PSNS Bremerton where it was mothballed to Hawaii. I also toured the WWII German Sub at the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago back in 1959 when I was stationed at Great Lakes Training Center and yes you are right it does redefine the term claustrophobia. I have been on the U-505 too. Read WE CAPTURED A U-BOAT by REAR-ADMIRAL DANIEL V. GALLERY. Maked the trip to the U505 even better.
The first time I shot myself in the head...
Meniere's Sucks Big Time!!!
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 22,274
Campfire Ranger
|
OP
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 22,274 |
There is a bronze plate in the deck where the treaty was signed. I once reenlisted standing in front of it. For several years I spent my reserve active duty time at the sub base PH. Every time I was in Hawaii I visited the Arizona Memorial. I cried every time. Dang - that was one thing I missed during my 4 visits to the sub base, touring the AZ memorial.. The pic of that foot-thick door amazed me. I had NO idea it would be that think. I'd love to visit a battlewagon - it was my second choice of duty if I failed getting a sub.. Tex:
Did you by chance go through the WW II sub that is moored in the same area? We really enjoyed walked through it. USS Bowfin? Correct, USS Bowfin is the sub that is parked there. On this organized tour I did not have time to tour the sub, but I'll try to do it next trip. I have more pics at home, that I'll upload tonight.
"...the designer of the .270 Ingwe cartridge!..."
|
|
|
|
611 members (12344mag, 007FJ, 10ring1, 1936M71, 10gaugemag, 160user, 77 invisible),
2,430
guests, and
1,124
robots. |
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,191,118
Posts18,464,562
Members73,925
|
Most Online11,491 Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|