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.30-06 and 190 LR Accubond #8604537 02/20/14
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,081 Oklahoma, Canadian River ExpatFromOK OP Campfire Tracker
OP ExpatFromOK Campfire Tracker Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,081 Oklahoma, Canadian River	Anyone tried this? 2700fps dependably achievable from a 22 inch barrel? Expat "There are no dangerous weapons. There are only dangerous men." - Robert Heinlein

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Re: .30-06 and 190 LR Accubond ExpatFromOK #8605151 02/21/14
Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,862 Albuquerque, NM, USA H hunting1 Campfire Tracker
hunting1 Campfire Tracker H Joined: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,862 Albuquerque, NM, USA	Have not tried it but would be dandy at that speed if it were accurate! RL22 or 17 maybe? Good Shooting!

Re: .30-06 and 190 LR Accubond hunting1 #8605427 02/21/14
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 15,609 ms N navlav8r Campfire Ranger
navlav8r Campfire Ranger N Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 15,609 ms	I have some but haven't loaded any yet. I'll try H4350 and H4831 in my .30/06 first. I have shot some 7MM 168 LRAB's out of my 40-XB 7 Mag that I use to shoot across clear cuts. Last weekend one group with Retumbo had the first three in 0.4" and five in 0.6". Another with H-4831 put four in 0.15" and five in 0.4". That should work NRA Life,Endowment,Patron or Benefactor since '72.

Re: .30-06 and 190 LR Accubond navlav8r #8606067 02/21/14
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 7,263 Out Yonder T Tejano Campfire Tracker
Tejano Campfire Tracker T Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 7,263 Out Yonder	I haven't tried them but the Nosler site has data for them. Several powders get 2,650 fps. easily from a 24" barrel. http://www.nosler.com/30-06-springfield "When you disarm the people, you commence to offend them and show that you distrust them either through cowardice or lack of confidence, and both of these opinions generate hatred." Niccolo Machiavelli

Re: .30-06 and 190 LR Accubond Tejano #8606109 02/21/14
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 17,227 Northern Louisiana JPro Campfire Ranger
JPro Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 17,227 Northern Louisiana	I would also be looking at RL17. Folks have made 2,700-ish with the 208gr A-max. Mule Deer posted a load a little while back in his "getting the most from your 30-06" article that got him over 2,800 with a 185VLD and a 24" barrel. I think he was using Ramshot Hunter. Now with even more aplomb

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Re: .30-06 and 190 LR Accubond JPro #8606119 02/21/14
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 17,227 Northern Louisiana JPro Campfire Ranger
JPro Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 17,227 Northern Louisiana	Found it. Was 58gr of Hunter with a 185 VLD for 2,862FPS. 30-06 Now with even more aplomb

Re: .30-06 and 190 LR Accubond JPro #8607475 02/21/14
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,081 Oklahoma, Canadian River ExpatFromOK OP Campfire Tracker
OP ExpatFromOK Campfire Tracker Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,081 Oklahoma, Canadian River	I was thinking Hunter or one of the 4831s. "There are no dangerous weapons. There are only dangerous men." - Robert Heinlein

Re: .30-06 and 190 LR Accubond ExpatFromOK #8608228 02/22/14
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 15,646 Coues Country G GregW Campfire Ranger
GregW Campfire Ranger G Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 15,646 Coues Country	I got 2,625 in my .308 last weekend with tac. Couldn't get enough rl-17 in case to get there. - Greg Success is found at the intersection of planning, hard work, and stubbornness.

Re: .30-06 and 190 LR Accubond GregW #8608437 02/22/14
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,081 Oklahoma, Canadian River ExpatFromOK OP Campfire Tracker
OP ExpatFromOK Campfire Tracker Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,081 Oklahoma, Canadian River	I'm thinking this is doable. I've gotten 2700 with the 190 Hornady BTSPIL using IMR-4831, but I'm sure the Nosler is much longer bullet. Expat "There are no dangerous weapons. There are only dangerous men." - Robert Heinlein

Re: .30-06 and 190 LR Accubond ExpatFromOK #8610820 02/22/14
Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,424 MN B bucktail Campfire Tracker
bucktail Campfire Tracker B Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,424 MN	You should be able to get close. I'm getting about 2750 with a 180 grain partition with 58 grains of Hunter. If you love someone set them free If they come back no one else liked them Set them free again

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Re: .30-06 and 190 LR Accubond bucktail #8617416 02/24/14
Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 20 Colorado R rider14x New Member
rider14x New Member R Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 20 Colorado	Where are you guys getting those bullets to test? I have been looking everywhere for the 190g LR AB and have come up empty. Thanks!

Re: .30-06 and 190 LR Accubond rider14x #8617783 02/24/14
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 15,609 ms N navlav8r Campfire Ranger
navlav8r Campfire Ranger N Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 15,609 ms	There was a box of 100 on G/broker yesterday and I think it was up to $140. NRA Life,Endowment,Patron or Benefactor since '72.

Re: .30-06 and 190 LR Accubond navlav8r #8618443 02/24/14
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,081 Oklahoma, Canadian River ExpatFromOK OP Campfire Tracker
OP ExpatFromOK Campfire Tracker Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 4,081 Oklahoma, Canadian River	Yikes! Maybe I'll load some more Hornady 190s!! Expat "There are no dangerous weapons. There are only dangerous men." - Robert Heinlein

Re: .30-06 and 190 LR Accubond ExpatFromOK #8618813 02/25/14
Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,252 Cheyenne, Wy Fotis Campfire Ranger
Fotis Campfire Ranger Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,252 Cheyenne, Wy	Originally Posted by ExpatFromOK Anyone tried this? 2700fps dependably achievable from a 22 inch barrel? Expat YUP RL 17 is your friend https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com μολὼν λαβέ "Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""

Re: .30-06 and 190 LR Accubond Fotis #8619276 02/25/14
Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,252 Cheyenne, Wy Fotis Campfire Ranger
Fotis Campfire Ranger Joined: May 2009 Posts: 17,252 Cheyenne, Wy	This simulation is limited to 60K psi I run my 30-06 hotter .... anyway Cartridge : .30-06 Spring. (SAAMI) Bullet : .308, 190, Nosler AccuBond LR 58456 G7 Useable Case Capaci: 57.533 grain H2O = 3.736 cm� Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 3.340 inch = 84.84 mm Barrel Length : 22.0 inch = 558.8 mm Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders. Matching Maximum Pressure: 60000 psi, or 413 MPa or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 110 % These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window. C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations. USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON ! 137 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 90%. These powders have been skipped. Powder type Filling/Loading Ratio Charge Charge Vel. Prop.Burnt P max P muzz B_Time % Grains Gramm fps % psi psi ms --------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------- Norma MRP 110.0 60.9 3.94 2768 98.3 59460 11500 1.117 ! Near Maximum ! ReloadSwiss RS 60 99.9 55.6 3.60 2761 100.0 60000 10339 1.110 ! Near Maximum ! ReloadSwiss RS 70 102.6 58.0 3.76 2748 99.7 60000 10823 1.111 ! Near Maximum ! Elcho 17 99.0 55.1 3.57 2741 100.0 60000 10278 1.116 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-17 99.0 55.1 3.57 2741 100.0 60000 10278 1.116 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 7828 SSC 109.7 59.8 3.87 2722 95.2 60000 11075 1.111 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S365 106.3 56.1 3.63 2719 100.0 60000 9815 1.127 ! Near Maximum ! ReloadSwiss RS 62 101.2 56.3 3.65 2707 99.9 60000 10225 1.136 ! Near Maximum ! PB Clermont PCL 511 100.4 56.7 3.68 2704 99.1 60000 10476 1.125 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot Hunter 103.7 56.8 3.68 2703 99.1 60000 10460 1.126 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N560 110.0 59.6 3.86 2700 94.2 56543 11317 1.144 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-19 108.2 57.4 3.72 2695 96.9 60000 10616 1.122 ! Near Maximum ! Winchester 760 97.9 54.9 3.56 2695 98.5 60000 10423 1.130 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H414 97.9 54.9 3.56 2695 98.5 60000 10423 1.130 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2213 110.0 59.0 3.82 2694 94.8 59118 10899 1.120 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2209 107.3 56.6 3.67 2688 96.7 60000 10509 1.117 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP14 ~approximation 109.0 57.8 3.74 2688 96.9 60000 10533 1.123 ! Near Maximum ! Norma URP 103.2 54.1 3.51 2688 99.8 60000 10081 1.133 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP19 ~approximation 103.2 54.2 3.51 2687 99.8 60000 10078 1.133 ! Near Maximum ! Vihtavuori N550 100.2 54.3 3.52 2686 99.8 60000 10200 1.139 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 4350 102.6 54.4 3.53 2686 99.8 60000 10069 1.148 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-22 110.0 59.0 3.82 2680 96.3 55759 11012 1.155 ! Near Maximum ! Raufoss RA15 110.0 59.0 3.82 2680 96.3 55759 11012 1.155 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP5/NP ~approximation 110.0 59.0 3.82 2680 96.3 55759 11012 1.155 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate MAGPRO 110.0 62.0 4.02 2674 92.0 55531 11235 1.157 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4831 108.4 55.0 3.57 2672 99.9 60000 9872 1.142 ! Near Maximum ! Raufoss RA4 105.8 56.1 3.64 2669 96.6 60000 10296 1.125 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 204 102.5 56.1 3.64 2669 96.6 60000 10296 1.125 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP4 ~approximation 105.8 56.1 3.64 2669 96.6 60000 10296 1.125 ! Near Maximum ! SNPE Vectan SP 11 96.3 52.8 3.42 2669 100.0 60000 9696 1.134 ! Near Maximum ! ReloadSwiss RS 52 95.2 52.2 3.38 2667 100.0 60000 9620 1.137 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot Magnum 110.0 63.5 4.12 2667 96.8 57456 10593 1.135 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S385 108.6 58.2 3.77 2665 97.8 60000 10208 1.141 ! Near Maximum ! Ramshot Big Game 93.2 52.7 3.41 2663 100.0 60000 9596 1.135 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 106.1 54.4 3.53 2656 100.0 60000 9285 1.131 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4831 SC 109.0 58.4 3.79 2656 94.4 60000 10281 1.122 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4895 92.8 49.2 3.19 2656 100.0 60000 9584 1.144 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP4 NT ~approximation 103.3 55.6 3.61 2654 98.2 60000 10020 1.137 ! Near Maximum ! Alliant Reloder-15 93.6 49.6 3.22 2648 100.0 60000 9554 1.144 ! Near Maximum ! Raufoss RA11 93.6 49.6 3.22 2648 100.0 60000 9554 1.144 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP11 ~approximation 93.6 49.6 3.22 2648 100.0 60000 9554 1.144 ! Near Maximum ! Winchester Supreme 780 106.4 59.5 3.86 2647 96.6 60000 10032 1.126 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 203B 94.0 49.9 3.23 2646 100.0 60000 9479 1.145 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP3 95.5 51.2 3.32 2641 100.0 60000 9342 1.157 ! Near Maximum ! Norma 203 old 95.5 51.2 3.32 2641 100.0 60000 9342 1.157 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H380 94.9 51.4 3.33 2640 99.6 60000 9669 1.148 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex S070 102.4 53.7 3.48 2639 98.5 60000 9864 1.148 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R903 97.7 51.2 3.32 2635 100.0 60000 9265 1.157 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4350 105.1 54.5 3.53 2634 97.8 60000 9778 1.133 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R904 106.4 55.6 3.60 2634 95.5 60000 9952 1.130 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4350 103.1 54.4 3.52 2634 97.9 60000 9764 1.133 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4320 95.5 49.8 3.23 2633 100.0 60000 9205 1.130 ! Near Maximum ! PB Clermont PCL 516 91.5 51.7 3.35 2632 99.6 60000 9547 1.140 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon H4895 90.2 47.8 3.10 2630 100.0 60000 9236 1.146 ! Near Maximum ! ReloadSwiss RS 50 93.3 51.4 3.33 2629 99.7 60000 9461 1.144 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2206H 90.6 48.0 3.11 2629 100.0 60000 9293 1.145 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S355 97.6 50.7 3.28 2629 100.0 60000 9264 1.152 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP7 NT ~approximation 96.7 51.7 3.35 2628 98.6 60000 9532 1.123 ! Near Maximum ! Elcho TR140 - preliminary data 94.5 51.7 3.35 2625 99.7 60000 9414 1.145 ! Near Maximum ! SNPE Vectan SP 9 91.2 50.0 3.24 2624 100.0 60000 9235 1.141 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex S065 101.0 52.4 3.40 2619 99.2 60000 9532 1.150 ! Near Maximum ! ADI AR 2208 95.9 49.3 3.20 2613 99.9 60000 9201 1.137 ! Near Maximum ! Hodgdon VARGET 96.2 49.3 3.20 2613 99.9 60000 9201 1.137 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R907 99.7 51.9 3.36 2613 97.8 60000 9622 1.146 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP7 99.7 51.9 3.36 2613 97.8 60000 9622 1.146 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 3031 93.0 46.1 2.99 2612 100.0 60000 8534 1.149 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4007 SSC 96.5 51.9 3.36 2612 97.8 60000 9615 1.146 ! Near Maximum ! Rottweil R905 110.0 57.9 3.75 2611 93.5 53972 10443 1.176 ! Near Maximum ! Bofors RP3 NT ~approximation 98.4 51.9 3.36 2610 99.2 60000 9326 1.135 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex D073.6 90.5 49.5 3.21 2610 100.0 60000 8749 1.161 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 4064 95.2 49.4 3.20 2606 100.0 60000 8739 1.179 ! Near Maximum ! IMR 4064 96.8 48.5 3.14 2606 100.0 60000 9021 1.142 ! Near Maximum ! Lovex S062 94.5 48.8 3.16 2605 100.0 60000 8879 1.155 ! Near Maximum ! Accurate 3100 110.0 58.3 3.78 2603 98.4 55354 9909 1.191 ! Near Maximum ! Somchem S361 105.1 59.4 3.85 2602 94.4 60000 9710 1.142 ! Near Maximum ! https://thehandloadinglog.wordpress.com μολὼν λαβέ "Weatherby was too long so I nicknamed it "Bee""

Re: .30-06 and 190 LR Accubond navlav8r #8619815 02/25/14
Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 20 Colorado R rider14x New Member
rider14x New Member R Joined: Jan 2013 Posts: 20 Colorado	Originally Posted by navlav8r There was a box of 100 on G/broker yesterday and I think it was up to $140. Wow, that hurts just thinking about it!

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