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Butch, I iust read through the earlier part of this thread and caught your mention of John Holliger and Uptagraft. Do you know them?

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Yes sir I do.

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Speechless. I don't care who you are, that is some shooting, right there.


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Yes sir I do.

Imagine that...a benchrester associating with gasgunners!

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Chris, My first meeting with John was an argument about AR triggers. Almost got heated. I realized that maybe with him being in the business, he probably knew more than I. John has done a lot of work for me including building 3 uppers for myself and Sons. I have found shooting supplies for him and got them in his hands. We also share a love for certain older rifles.
His AR's are very accurate.

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The entire string would have missed a man�s torso at that range, tho. What�s needed is a way to get men to stand around while we fire spotter shots at them. :-)

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Everyone is upset because I scored that first target as an 80-0x. That is what it was...if you are only shooing for a group and not a score...why use a regular High Power target....just paint a dot on paper, aim for that.


Guess I missed this. They don't paint a dot for an aim point because you must go by the rules which are available on line. Once you read & understand those you'll understand they shoot for both group & score. It's all really quite simple.

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