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100 yds with open sights and my eyesight i may need something better then 5-8 inch. Off course they are as big as elephants!!!! I am not chasing elk. So I need to be about 3-4 inch group. Is that realistic!! I can shoot a little!!!lol

I can shoot better groups than that with my bow, so if I have to get that close I will take my Switchback!

Good choice, you can hunt the whole month!

What part of Colorado you from LoneWati? If you are close to Manitou Springs, check out the mountain man, they stock REAL black powder. If you TC hawken is hang firing, you've most likely been using a sub powder like pyrodex or triple 7. Those powders are harder to set off. Well worth a trip even if its a couple hours away, awesome store!

When I do my part, I can shoot a 2-3 inch group with open sights at 100 yards with my Knight LRH. My renegade is not far behind.

From what I have heard of them and I was just starting out, I would probably get a CVA Accura. Don't own one though. I have two T/Cs, two knights, and a White.

Powerbelts are legal in Colorado aren't they? I have an Omega that shoots the 250 AeroLites real well. They load real easier than any other bullet I've ever tried too...

I use fffg triple 7 in my renegade and CCI number magnum 11 caps and that eliminated my misfires.

Mine shot powerbelts decent as well, but powerbelts are a whole other subject!! Personally would not use aerolites for anything but a target!

But your observation holds water if you already own an Omega. But when you can buy a gun that shoots sabots and a whole slew of conicals including flatbased lead conicals like no excuses well, I would choose the another gun

If my boss would only let me off that long! Oh wait, I am my own boss. Darn, I am such a slave driver!

Plus, you have a d^^^ for a boss......

Just avoid anything made in Spain and you'll be safe....literally.

only a matter of time before swampdouche got in.

I sent my T/C barrel out, had the QLA cut off and recrowned.

Clean the bore to bare metal, use DynaBoreCoat, then use only pure black powder.

I would go with a .50 cal and be done with it. Knight is going to be a great choice or a CVA...IMHO...A Break Action design is really easy to maintain over a bolt action, but whatever you choose I would get it in stainless hands down.

For the money, CVA and you would have enough to get many different extras, but a Knight is hard to beat.

Before you give up on the Hawken, try a pack of Hornady 350gr. FPBs. They are 50 cal jacketed hollow- based conicals. I have a TC Greyhawk that I couldn't get to group with any combination of powder and bullet. The FPB over 80-100 gr. of 777 with CCI #11 M caps shoots great. You do need to knock out the crud with a dry brush every few shots, but that's no big deal. Not sure if they're legal in CO.

One thing that also helps is the use of a 1/2" i.d. plastic or nylon flange bushing over the muzzle while starting the bullet. It really helps keep things straight. You place the bushing flange-side down on the muzzle and then put the bullet base-first in the bushing. Move the bushing around slightly and the base of the bullet will drop into the muzzle. Give it a push with the short starter and then seat with the ramrod.

My Greyhawk doesn't have QLA. Sounds like that's lucky for me.

Thanks for all the great advice guy's!!! One thing I did not realize is that Knight was still kicking!! Surprise I guess!!!! Thought they went under!!! Hope one day to post up an animal with a smokepole!!!! Moose and antelope is what I tried for again this year with the muzzy. But hopefully next year it will be for all. I had one real bad experience in losing a monster 11x5 muley @ 10 yds. Bad shot didn't get the hair trigger set. Knocked him flat backwards. Shot just in front of the shoulder, coughing up blood. Thought about just jumping on him and putting the knife to work. He had to much head gear for me to get to close as he was sprawling around. Pre lubed my buffalo bullets and had the shakes pretty bad and dropped them in the sand. Buck finally got up and hit the fence and rolled backwards, then came my way. I had to bail. Got reloaded, waited for my buddy to arrive. The deer left hair and blood on a 3 foot high barbed wire fence where he crossed. Where I first knocked him down there was a 3 foot diameter of blood on the ground. Thought he was mine. He could barely run. 45 minute wait and started looking. Went through some cattails with blood on both sides of the cattails. After that, I know he came up the bank, but then a hail storm hit and lost all sign. spent 3 days looking for him. Coyotes. Magpies, crows whatever I could try and use. Was so disappointed I lost such a magnificent animal. My fault totally and quit hunting with the muzzy even though I know it was not the gun, bullet, powder etc. just a bad shot. 25 years ago and it is still so fresh in my mind. Enough crying, thanks for all your help!!

That's funny, I was thinking the same about you, and guess who had the first, and easily anticipated reply, to this post?

Knight makes good ones.

I have killed 3 elk with the 350 gr Hornady FPBs. This past year shooting them from my T/C rendgade