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I need to borrow a set of wood from a Savage 99. I'm wanting to add it to my duplication pattern list. Beat up cracked etc would be fine.
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I've got some. Lots of different types though.
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Well that makes it complicated. LOL Not being familiar I had assumed the stock was a basic unit.
So is the a basic unit (fit) then vary by Monte Carlo, cheek piece< plain etc?
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Many subtle variations. pistol grips and caps, straight, different dimensions in each era, different pistol grip options, heavy R rifle thicker throughout, featherweight F. Many variants.
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Well C@#P I can see I really need to rethink this. Or at least do enough research to ask a half way informed question.
Thanks for helping me see how much I didn't know.
As to forearms the normal would be leave some extra wood on the outside and go with a light weight barrel. If more channel is needed it can be cut by hand. It can't be added back if you cut for a heavy barrel. As to grip cap again leave more wood it can always be removed. This wouldn't be a drop in but a semi. The straight vs curved vs no cheekpiece vs monte carlo etc causes the bigger issues.
Don't know that the market would be big enough for me to justify a large number of options. Now 98s, 70s and 700s that is easy.
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There was talk on the Savage forum a while back of one particular variant being pretty desirable, seems it was a semi pistol grip stock with an S shaped pistol grip end from the early days. You might try the Savage forum. There are LOTS of cracked buttstocks in existance. The one problem I found in buying a reproduction stock is there was just WAY too much wood on it. It was a full 1/4" to large everywhere. That's just too much.
I will tell you Savage guys will look for something that dulicates factory dimensions so a replacement isn't a glaring detraction. Nobody wants to spend $100, go to dozens of hours of hand fitting and finishing, and have their rifle completely devalued by the repacement stock. Lots of guys would love to have a factory looking replacement stock that didn't take 100 hours of hand time to make work.
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Best way to get templates is to start advertising (on the Savage collectors thread) you'll do 99 duplications...you will get a ton of inquiries, and all the templates you'd want within a couple years.
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What do have for wood? I'll order up a set of EG stocks right now if we can come to terms. The EG butt stock will be the most common replacement in Savage-world
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Savage Forum? Is that the savage forum here on someplace else? Please excuse my ignorance JeffG as too 2 piece wood I have on hand I wouldn't grade it much above pattern quality. However I can get pretty much what you want. Type of wood? Your $$ range A 2 piece in French like this AA would be in the $120-140 range plus duplication. I do a 1 piece for $100 a 2 piece because of the extra set up would be in the same range. ![[Linked Image]](http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/Ramrod340/DSC08008_zpsa44eefd0.jpg) What I do need is to get a set and play with set up and see just how close I can cut it.
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Thanks "ready" I have two members that said they would send me patterns so when I get them and jig done and patterns copied I'll post them on the savage forum.
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Here's a couple sets of pictures to browse through, you'll see a huge variety of stock types. http://www.savagefest.net/SavageFest_2010/http://www.savagefest.net/SavageFest_2012/Here is an example of the stock type that Fireball mentioned. Early Marlin stocks with pistol grips have the same S shape to the end of the pistol grip. Full Sized Pic ![[Linked Image]](http://www.savagefest.net/my_99s/1902_Leader_303/var/albums/Left_Full2.JPG) There were also changes to the length of the tang from the earliest years to later. And changes in stock bolt length later on. So.. different stock shapes for: 1) 1895A/1895B/1895C - same style for all. 2) 1895 SRC - carbine. 3) 1899A/1899B/1899C/99A/99B - identical with 1907'ish to 1917 having a perchbelly rather than flat bottom to the buttstock. Changes to tang length between early and late ones tho. 4) 1899A Short Rifle/99C/99D - same as 1899A, but with shotgun buttplate rather than crescent. Same perchbelly as above. 99D is takedown. Changes to tang length between early and late ones tho. 5) 1899F - SRC stock. Same perchbelly as above. Changes to tang length between early and late ones tho. 6) 1899H/99E/99F (1920's/1930's 99F) - Featherweight stock similar to 1899A/B/C, but with holes drilled in the end to lighten it. Same perchbelly as above. 99F is always takedown, many 1899H's were takedowns. Changes to tang length between early and late ones tho. 7) 1899 250-3000/99G/99K/99EG - early 250-3000's had perchbelly, 250-3000 and 99G were takedowns. 8) 99H - later carbine style with several variations. 9) 99R - 2 styles, 1930's and 1950's. Some 1930's had fluted comb, others didn't. 10) 99T - one style, also almost identical to uncatalogued model we call the RT. 11) 99F (1950's) - one style, some had fluted combs others didn't. That list should be fairly close start.. I won't go into the post-1960 models or the military muskets. There were also special order alterations available to the early ones. Pistol grip being one. A cheek piece was available, though is almost never seen. Shotgun style buttplates rather than crescent style. That's most of it..
“ The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”. All models and variations of 1895’s, 1899’s and 99’s covered. Also dates, checkering, engraving.. Find at www.savagelevers.com
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Nice pictures. Goes to show I didn't know squat about 99s
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First step is in recognizing that you don't know. Second step is learning. Third and last step is realizing you'll never know it all. That's the one that sucks.
I do need a couple of 1895 stocks, though. Wish I had a decent buttstock to send you (do have a forearm).
“ The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”. All models and variations of 1895’s, 1899’s and 99’s covered. Also dates, checkering, engraving.. Find at www.savagelevers.com
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Here's a couple sets of pictures to browse through, you'll see a huge variety of stock types. http://www.savagefest.net/SavageFest_2010/http://www.savagefest.net/SavageFest_2012/Here is an example of the stock type that Fireball mentioned. Early Marlin stocks with pistol grips have the same S shape to the end of the pistol grip. Full Sized Pic There were also changes to the length of the tang from the earliest years to later. And changes in stock bolt length later on. So.. different stock shapes for: 1) 1895A/1895B/1895C - same style for all. 2) 1895 SRC - carbine. 3) 1899A/1899B/1899C/99A/99B - identical with 1907'ish to 1917 having a perchbelly rather than flat bottom to the buttstock. Changes to tang length between early and late ones tho. 4) 1899A Short Rifle/99C/99D - same as 1899A, but with shotgun buttplate rather than crescent. Same perchbelly as above. 99D is takedown. Changes to tang length between early and late ones tho. 5) 1899F - SRC stock. Same perchbelly as above. Changes to tang length between early and late ones tho. 6) 1899H/99E/99F (1920's/1930's 99F) - Featherweight stock similar to 1899A/B/C, but with holes drilled in the end to lighten it. Same perchbelly as above. 99F is always takedown, many 1899H's were takedowns. Changes to tang length between early and late ones tho. 7) 1899 250-3000/99G/99K/99EG - early 250-3000's had perchbelly, 250-3000 and 99G were takedowns. 8) 99H - later carbine style with several variations. 9) 99R - 2 styles, 1930's and 1950's. Some 1930's had fluted comb, others didn't. 10) 99T - one style, also almost identical to uncatalogued model we call the RT. 11) 99F (1950's) - one style, some had fluted combs others didn't. That list should be fairly close start.. I won't go into the post-1960 models or the military muskets. There were also special order alterations available to the early ones. Pistol grip being one. A cheek piece was available, though is almost never seen. Shotgun style buttplates rather than crescent style. That's most of it.. Nice post Rory. Thank you!
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There are mistakes... like forgetting to day the 99K's were takedown, that 1920's 99E/99F didn't have holes drilled in the stock to lighten them, etc. But not bad for off the cuff. 
“ The Savage 99 Pocket Reference”. All models and variations of 1895’s, 1899’s and 99’s covered. Also dates, checkering, engraving.. Find at www.savagelevers.com
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Well, if you're going to samples of one then the list gets really, really long...
I'll ask for that takedown 99T stock, for example.
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