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And you thought it was just about controlling the whereabouts of "illegal bovines"........


In the end, there is only one reason why the Bundy ranch was besieged. President Obama had to have taken the lead. He knew it was going on and he sanctioned it. Beyond oil, solar, and Chinese Communists with money, lurks Obama�s Agenda.........Sara Noble

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I disagree with the reasoning that obama and his like would support this . The base reason is IMO that if they can hog tie the self reliant people in this country by forcing them into government dependency . The result is votes , which means power , which them means wealth.
As long as there are people who do not and will not accept their way thinking , there will be a challenge to their power , which means a challenge to their vote and an endangerment to their wealth


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I still suspect it was a test run for the Feds. Just to see how far they can push the populace before they get pushed back.

I do agree that this admin and especially Reid did have a lot to do with it.

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I still suspect it was a test run for the Feds. Just to see how far they can push the populace before they get pushed back.

I do agree that this admin and especially Reid did have a lot to do with it.



And they're probably regrouping and modifying their plans for Round 2.


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Or it could be that Bundy is in violation of the law, and many court orders, and the government was only trying to enforce those laws and contempt of court actions! That land is public domain lands, not Bundys property to do with as he sees' fit!
Other ranchers abide by the law, why shouldn't Bundy???

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Originally Posted by Twinkletoes
Or it could be that Bundy is in violation of the law, and many court orders, and the government was only trying to enforce those laws and contempt of court actions! That land is public domain lands, not Bundys property to do with as he sees' fit!
Other ranchers abide by the law, why shouldn't Bundy???


Would have been nice to see the resources expended towards this Bundy deal towards our guys in Benghazi - save some lives....


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I agree Steve and that's the baffeling part. Feds never back down cuz they supposedly have the law on there side. Why did they back down? There's more to this than back taxes.

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Originally Posted by Twinkletoes
Or it could be that Bundy is in violation of the law, and many court orders, and the government was only trying to enforce those laws and contempt of court actions! That land is public domain lands, not Bundys property to do with as he sees' fit!
Other ranchers abide by the law, why shouldn't Bundy???
There aren't any other ranchers there. The Feds drove them all out, intentionally, just as they were attempting to do to Bundy.

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Originally Posted by Twinkletoes
Or it could be that Bundy is in violation of the law, and many court orders, and the government was only trying to enforce those laws and contempt of court actions! That land is public domain lands, not Bundys property to do with as he sees' fit!
Other ranchers abide by the law, why shouldn't Bundy???


Would have been nice to see the resources expended towards this Bundy deal towards our guys in Benghazi - save some lives....


Or to secure the border.

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Natural News reported that the Bureau of Land Management is in the business of leasing government lands to energy companies


Are y'all really that gullible?

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Another BLM report entitled �Regional Mitigation Strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone� (BLM Technical Note 444) reveals that Bundy�s land in question is within the �Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone and surrounding area� which is part of a broad U.S. Department of Energy program for �Solar Energy Development in Six Southwestern States� on land �managed� by BLM.


No, it's not
It's 175 miles from Bunkerville, in Laughlin NV

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Back in 2012, the New American reported that Harry Reid�s son, Rory Reid, was the chief representative for a Chinese energy firm planning to build a $5-billion solar plant on public land in Laughlin, Nevada.

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Originally Posted by Twinkletoes
Or it could be that Bundy is in violation of the law, and many court orders, and the government was only trying to enforce those laws and contempt of court actions! That land is public domain lands, not Bundys property to do with as he sees' fit!
Other ranchers abide by the law, why shouldn't Bundy???


Is it possible that others just gave up and were not willing to go through the fight to keep what was rightfully theirs? Bundy claimed there were 24 other ranchers in the area at one time. Now there is one. We really don't know what put those other folks out of business. It would be nice to hear from them. I wonder how many would say it was because of .gov interference, threats or innuendo of legal action. I can see why Harry and his gang are upset. The gravy train just got stopped.

Our federal government has NO CREDIBILITY. Harry reid has less than the federal government. JMHO. kwg


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Originally Posted by Joel/AK
I still suspect it was a test run for the Feds. Just to see how far they can push the populace before they get pushed back.

I do agree that this admin and especially Reid did have a lot to do with it.


This is all a "test run" . Military equipment being given to local police, Bundy ranch, unwarrented search warrants because of a tip, car stops for no reason, and a lot of it started after the Boston bombings when police went door to door, and the people praised the police with " thank you police" banners. Since then, it has gotten a lot worse all over the country .


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Originally Posted by Twinkletoes
Or it could be that Bundy is in violation of the law, and many court orders, and the government was only trying to enforce those laws and contempt of court actions! That land is public domain lands, not Bundys property to do with as he sees' fit!
Other ranchers abide by the law, why shouldn't Bundy???


I agree.

I think the decision for the Feds backing off probably came from the White House. I think this administration didn't want to repeat the mistakes of Wacko or Ruby Ridge. They can always swoop in and pick up Bundy at a later date. Safer for everyone involved.

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The federal government is not monolithic. It doesn't operate with one mind. It is possible that this entire operation was originally the idea of some mid to upper level management types in the BLM who got their play backed by the top guys but as it escalated someone with more stroke said, "Wait, what? You're really going to shoot people over this stupid schit? No, bring those jackasses home and we'll buy his kids out after he croacks in a few years."

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Originally Posted by Joel/AK
I agree Steve and that's the baffeling part. Feds never back down cuz they supposedly have the law on there side. Why did they back down? There's more to this than back taxes.


Absolutely, and since we have our own land issues up here with the feral leviathan, I'm not about to buy into the govt's version or their waterboys in the media.

There is something else at play. Maybe they were trying to provoke a violent response and decided to go home when they didn't get it.


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Originally Posted by Twinkletoes
Or it could be that Bundy is in violation of the law, and many court orders, and the government was only trying to enforce those laws and contempt of court actions! That land is public domain lands, not Bundys property to do with as he sees' fit!
Other ranchers abide by the law, why shouldn't Bundy???


You seem to have some bad information. 9 Other Ranchers have been run off their property. Budy HAS been paying his taxes, he paid them to the County tax assessor. I believe his contention is that the property belongs to the state of Nevada so that's who he paid. More of a States RIghts Issue going on before our eyes, I haven't seen where Bundy has had his day in court before the feds decided to steel over $300,000 worth of cattle, but Harry and the boys are anxious to make some money working with the Chicoms.


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