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Originally Posted by Boococky
I have always been a little reserved when it came to Kahrs, have looked at them more than one and just couldnt bring myself to do it....They are way overpriced IMHO and for that price, they should dang well work flawlessly


Hmmm. I have $350 OTD for mine and it does work flawlessly.


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Ok guys, just changed up my grip ALOT and it did not drop the magazine but now the next round won't chamber all the way. I have to push forward the slide to fire the next shot. And now when I pull back the slide it won't stay open. It's ever so slowly becoming the worst firearm I've ever owned.


Didn't get a break from work to talk to kahr tech support. I'll be sending the entire pistol to them.

I'll sell it for $300 shipped to anyone in this thread aware of the issues I'm speaking of.

Pissed I have to even change my grip to begin with.


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Originally Posted by R_H_Clark
If you are releasing the mag with your grip on the button, I would think that is more the fault of your grip than a design flaw of the gun.
Doesn't matter. I've never had a revolver cylinder fly open under recoil. There's no excuse for a mag dropping out under recoil, regardless of cause.

PS I have lots of auto pistols, and the problem was exclusive to the Kahr.

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I generally agree. Sometimes, though, it is not anybody�s fault. The person�s hand and the particular gun�s ergonomics just may not play well together.

As for Kahrs, there is a local shop here that will not sell new Kahrs or take them as trades due to the volume of complaints about them.


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Ive had 5-6 different people whom own semi auto pistols all shot my kahr. The mag drops on them too. Upon further inspection tonite while shooting my Kahr today while firing it was tryin to push the slide stop out.. I don't like this pile of [bleep] Kahr at all.


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The fragility of the slide stop spring and the fact that the slide stop spring screw screws directly into polymer instead of a metal bushing are the main reasons why I would never own another Kahr with a polymer frame.

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This will be the last one I own.


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Originally Posted by Shag
This will be the last one I own.


It happens. It wasn't meant to be. The pistol's reputation is built on far more positive owners, than disappointed ones. I doubt your review will adversely influence too many prospective buyers. Sorry it didn't work out for you. Still, one has to believe that the .40 S&W cartridge has been the bane of more firearms and shooters in many different platforms. It was possibly one of the more ill-conceived rounds, created to solve a problem that didn't really exist.

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Yes Kahr had some issues with the CW'S dropping mags I had a CW 45 with the same issue, kahr sent me new spring and mag release it fixed the issue, but that pistol had more issues is was not a problem child it was a total bastard!! it's long gone . I than got a cw 40 it work fine with loads it liked , but for me the accuracy was now where close to my glock 27 or 30 for that matter, for me it was the trigger . My big hands and the triggers on the kahr's do not get a long

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Sounds like it's just another reason to test any handgun that one might carry for serious purposes.

I had a 1990 Ford F-150 and about two weeks after I bought it someone was telling me what a POS they were and how this and that and everything else would quit working and fall off and in what order. 13 years later everything still worked just like new.

On the other side, most folks live entire lifetimes with Remington M700's whose handles don't fall off, I've had two of them fall off.

My Kahrs (have had four total, still have two) have all worked from the get go with zero issues and have been among the most accurate centerfire semi-autos I've owned, equaled or beaten in that area only by match grade 1911's. But obviously that's not true for everyone.


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I have become convinced that its all in the odds. From Hi-point you probable get a 20% chance of a gun that will fire reliably, from Colt, Smith, Glock, Sig probably 80% chance of buying a good gun. With Kahr its 66%, I have two good ones and one went down the road.


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Originally Posted by jimmyp
I have become convinced that its all in the odds. From Hi-point you probable get a 20% chance of a gun that will fire reliably, from Colt, Smith, Glock, Sig probably 80% chance of buying a good gun. With Kahr its 66%, I have two good ones and one went down the road.

Actually, High Points have an excellent reputation for reliability.

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We are a two Kahr family:

P45 will chamber a round, but the round must want to chamber. That tight chamber and weak recoil spring only accommodate slim and slippery ammo.

P380 will handle super hot loads, but does not always extract them, but instead takes a notch out of the rim.

Meanwhile my 6 Kel-tecs are ultra reliable, they don't look as nice nor shoot as straight as the Kahrs.


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Originally Posted by bruinruin
I've had an issue with dropping the mag from my K40, but it was my fault and was caused by the way I was gripping the gun. FWIW
That's what I'm thinkin' the OP's issue really is..

I've had 5 Kahrs, still have four.. NONE have had an 'early mag drop' issue.. However, to be fair, I'm left-handed... Maybe righties have most of the problems..

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If it wasn't a .40 I'd be sorely tempted to buy it.. I just never cared for that round.

And, FWIW, keep in mind the CW series is their 'price point' models - w/o spare mag and with a couple less features than their regular lines.. Offered only to compete with a few others in price..

I just gripped my P-9 and the mag button rests squarely between my trigger finger and the next one - so it doesn't get touched when firing etc.. If I switch to RH though, my thumb comes close. Now, if I had slightly longer/bigger hands I can see where a person gripping the gun could, in fact, trip the magazine release inadvertently.. I can't help but think a slightly stronger spring on the mag release button would help to cure most of those issues.


FWIW, one can research ANY pistol-maker and find complaints to a large degree..



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My PM9 has been flawless in 5 years of use, FWIW

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Originally Posted by duckster
My PM9 has been flawless in 5 years of use, FWIW
Mine's been flawless for more than twice that long. The problem with mine is that my hand occasionally contacts the mag release under recoil sufficiently to engage it.

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I bought one of the first PM9s available when they first came out. I could never get it to run well, and although I loved it for the size, I could never trust it, even after several trips back. I sold it.

A couple of years later I hoped and thought they may have those issues corrected, so I bought another one. I love the idea of the PM9.

Well...same exact problems with that one. Even after their break in period of a few hundred rounds, I was still getting jams and, like you said, the mag would drop - but usually because I bumped the mag release (horrible spot).

I gave up on the PM9 after that.

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Well, today I finally had a chance to talk with tech/repair employee/rep.. He asked for the serial number and I gave it to him. He told me when I bought it and where. HE then asked what the problem was.

I told him the magazine drops when firing and that the slide stop was being forced out and causing it to not fully chamber another round.

Via e-mail I received a Fed-ex shipping order allowing me to ship the pistol to them without going through an ffl.

I'm seriously thinking that when I receive either another CW40 or my repaired one of not even shooting it and selling it for $300 to anyone on this thread that knows what's been happening.

I can't [bleep] sell this to anyone that doesn't know.

I still cannot believe Kahr hasn't resolved this bullshitt. WAY to many reports of this kind on the web. WAY TO MANY!


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Originally Posted by bruinruin
I've had an issue with dropping the mag from my K40, but it was my fault and was caused by the way I was gripping the gun. FWIW


Out of curiosity, how many other semiautomatic pistols have you owned. And did you have to change your grip with anyother brand to prevent mag drops?





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