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Not until you calm down.



Travis

Hmmm. Probably nobody cares, but - and I hesitate to go on record saying this - I think Travis is right on the money. Find some cooler heads, and let them prevail. Insulting folks is not what this should be about, huh?

JUST CHILL

I'll go on record by saying that this is one of the dumbest exchanges I've ever been a part of.

I'll agree.




Travis

well...

...I vote for adequate penetration.

After that, the biggest practical holes, with adequate penetration...

I think that muzzle energy is all that you should look at when selecting a handgun cartridge.

safariman, It's not my stuff. I just linked it. Go ahead. It is very interesting to me because it explains and discounts a lot of theories. I learned a lot from it in an earlier version years ago. Notice the highest penetration from large meplat, moderate velocity bullets; but you can't get that at 300+ yds, so you need things like a .340 Wby with a 225gr TTSX fired at 3,160fps for that. But, for short, medium, range if one can do his part, a fat, large caliber meplat will kill/penetrate the best.

If you hit a water-based object (an animal) ant moderate+ velocity with a flat-faced bullet, as it penetrates, the tissue must spew sideways to exit the path of the flat-nosed bullet, which causes additional lateral damage. That's why big-bore, flat-nosed rounds are so deadly at shorter range.

Note, IMP the data shows why large caliber flat-nosed HC bullet do so superbly ad moderate ranges, but suggests that pointed high-velocity rifle bullets might be better (obviously) when shooting at long range. E.g., military snipers use long barreled rifles (rather than handguns) for long shot kills for a reason.

I knew that the study links were not your original material, but very, very few folks ever even LOOK or try to understand such things like a few of us rifle nuts do. My first wife once picked up a book that I had been reading in for a couple of months and looked up at me with a shocked expression exclaiming "This whole book is full of nothing but NUMBERS! How can ANYONE look at abook of only numbers for hours at a time, for months on end!"

RE your comment about a 225gr TTSX at 3160fps. That is my "gonna kill something today" load and rifle. And yeah, near OR far, it works really well.

If I can't kill it with my 10mm (had to work that into this reply to keep in spirit with the thread ) that 340 is the rifle I reach for. Unless the 416 is Really needed, or I have not shot anything with it in a long while. Did you know that a 350gr TTSX at 2750fps works really well on Tennessee hogs? Who coulda predicted that!? <G> Shot one on that trip with my 10mm at close range, and IT worked too. I wonder which theory was at play here?

Back to hunting with a 10mm.

Anyone try on of these?
http://eaacorp.com/portfolio-item/witness-hunter/
I saw the add in Shooting Times. It looks like a factory ready made 10mm hunting pistol in a six inch barrelled CZ75 clone.

Looks like a viable option. Lot of good reports on them.

I handled one when I was looking for my first 10mm semi auto. For me, I found it heavy and unwieldy but I was looking for a hunting AND CCW combo gun. For hunting only with a 10mm, that one might be a winning answer.