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You spent a lot of time inside high school lockers didn't you?

Neither condemning nor condoning Bundy's actions, just comparing what one man has done to that of Gooberment agencies with hundreds if not thousands of supposedly educated trained men.

Amazing how some people get so worked up by saying Bundy is getting a free ride by grazing cattle on public land.

But then look the other way as 12-20 million illegals cross into this country and take money and resources from this country.

Then think it's okay for the gobbermint to bailout Unions in Detroit with tax payers money.

Clearly, the problem with America is ...cows.

Bundy Ranch Showdown Proves Militias
Can Stop Government Excesses

When gun rights advocates explain that the Second Amendment exists to protect the people's last-ditch means of stopping an out-of-control government, a common reply from those who favor oppressive gun laws is that civilians, with our small arms, would have no chance against a military superpower like the U.S. They tell us that with tanks, stealth bombers, supersonic fighter jets, drones, helicopter gunships, etc., the military would crush any resistance by the people. (Oddly, this argument has apparently not yet convinced the Taliban to quit fighting.)

Some go further than that, and point to the U.S. nuclear arsenal, apparently untroubled by the prospect of the government using nukes against American citizens, and willing to stay loyal to a government they believe capable of such monstrous evil.

The Bureau of Land Management's decision, one week ago today, to back away from a fight against Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy and the armed civilians (members of the unorganized militia) and Oath Keepers who stand with him must confound those who believe that military might is everything.

Yet that's exactly what happened. With militia members having filed in by ones and twos, but eventually adding up to a sizable force, the BLM's paramilitary enforcers decided that a dispute about where cattle graze was not worth orphaning their children, ostensibly to protect "endangered" desert tortoises.

In other words, the federal government had marched in there with no intention of leaving without their pound of flesh--and ended up leaving with badly bruised egos.

The issue here is that even if Bundy is wrong, enforcement of grazing fee requirements is not legitimately the work of heavily armed paramilitary forces. And the further issue is that for now, at least, when those paramilitary forces stared through their rifle scopes at armed private citizens staring back at them through their rifle scopes, it was the government's eyes that blinked, with no injuries except to the feds' pride.

http://jpfo.org/articles-assd04/bundy-stand-off-analysis.htm

Written in another thread, but I want it here in my thread as well:


The government class simply believes that it is all theirs. They believe that they own all that you do not, all that you do, all that you make, and indeed you. They believe that the sovereign is absolute and that all is to be distributed, primarily amongst them, by or used by the leave of the sovereign.

Note how they refer to allowing you to keep a bit of your money by deferring a tax increase as an expense to them, and how they claim that taking and spending more is an investment. Any time that the government class' leaders claim that not taxing more is a cost, the are claiming all that you do not own, all that you do 'own', all that you make, and indeed you.

As important as are those words on parchment from 1215 and 1776 they can do nothing alone. We must perpetually and vigilantly enforce them and the laws that flow from them upon the government class or they will assuredly enforce their own laws upon us taking all that we do not own, all that we do 'own', all that we make, and indeed us.

Since January 20, 2009 only twice has the government class' taking been slowed. When we led by the NRA defeated Obama's gun control legislation, and then when Bundy and his supporters humiliated and forced those government class LEO thugs to retreat.

After 2 federal court orders against him and a appellate affirmation, you really have nothing left but to appeal to the emotions of dumb [bleep] who think cows and moms are being hazed because of government frat boys. I can assure you the BLM guys were scared schitless. Dumb folks with guns,on either side, will instill that fear in anyone.

I'm going with the well settled law and against Bundy appealing to dumb asses. Allegiance to the law is kind of constitutional as well, ya' know.

How Bundy could be the hill for anyone is rather scary. I had always thought stupidity could clearly kill a schitload of our population but I never knew it would begin with our militia side of malcontents.

You're in denial. Bundy brought some of this on to himself over 20 years. The Feds should have acted sooner and a bit more incrementally to avoid the debacle.

I have no use for the Feds and BLM the way they have evolved, but I live here and encountered "Bundys" all my life. They think they have their own little fiefdoms and deserve to rule public lands.

There are plenty of good honest hard working ranchers who work within the system, such as it is. I don't envy them at all, but they don't get their tit in the wringer like Bundy did.

The BLM, and worst...the Forest Service look at these lands as theirs, not ours, just like the Bundy-types do. The comparison is glaring.

The bottom line of not only this matter of conflict, but many others that not only involve the ranching industry, but logging, mining, recreation and hunting is that the government IS closing public lands to the public.

The focus and the slant now focuses on what the environmentalists want done within a liberal administration that gives not even a second glace at historical usage and management of public lands, but caters to radical environmental groups and enforces their bidding to close the land and enforce those regulatory measures against the public.

Our government should be doing everything within their power to keep public land open so that free Americans can enjoy it as they choose, and industries that have made good use of the lands for more than 100 years can continue to do so.

To most people this doesn't make the militias look brave patriots, it makes them look like dangerous crackpots.