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Originally Posted by Oheremicus
Really ? Leupold has been making the MRT line, which includes a scope like that for several years. Their 1.25-4X20 VX-R Patrol has been around for a couple of years now as well. E


The MR/T is a 1.5x.

If you go back and read what I wrote, it was regarding a true 1x. There's a difference.

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IME, The Leupy VX lines are good set and forget scopes and are certainly reliable enough for hunting.

Are they as durable as a Nightforce and do they track like one? nope, but they don't cost near as much either.

You get what you pay for.

I ain't been overly impressed with tracking ability on the VX3's I've owned. It's ok.

The new VX6 I bought my son tracks no better than my VX3 models and suffers from the same maladies.

Which are:

1. They don't return to zero consistently.

2. They don't do real well being run to the edge of their adjustment capability, which is the case with many scope brands.

Stay away from the top end and they usually do ok IME.

I've never owned a Mark scope, so can't comment on those.


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Not disputing your results JM, but that's really odd. The last three VX3's I have utilized are:
Vx3 3.5-10x40 CDS 7-08
VX3 4.5-14x50LR CDS 7mag
VX6 2-12x42 CDS 7mag

All have at least 200 rounds each, dialing out to 700'ish (VX3's), and 900 (vx6) and roughly every 50 yd increment in between, back to zero, and redone many, many many times.....zero issues. This over a 2 year period.


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Originally Posted by JGRaider
Not disputing your results JM, but that's really odd. The last three VX3's I have utilized are:
Vx3 3.5-10x40 CDS 7-08
VX3 4.5-14x50LR CDS 7mag
VX6 2-12x42 CDS 7mag

All have at least 200 rounds each, dialing out to 700'ish (VX3's), and 900 (vx6) and roughly every 50 yd increment in between, back to zero, and redone many, many many times.....zero issues. This over a 2 year period.


my CDS scope has been the one that has seemed to me to be more reliable

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I'm a realist though CC, mine could go bonkers tomorrow. I sure hope not....headed to Namibia Monday with that VX6/7mag. All that being said.....I'm wanting to try out one of the Meopta R2's with a Kenton turret. I think Meopta is onto something.


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My VX6 CDS I am not happy with. It does not re zero after a very large twist and is not consistent with the elevation received. Boxer on here asked me a while ago what I thought of the scope and does it track, I said yeah sure it does it shoots a 6" box ok and comes back to the start, he says that's crap do a 20" elevation test and re zero. So I did that and it's all over the place and given click values are not repeatable . It does hold zero, and is fine for a point and shoot it's not mounted at the moment.

My VX3 2.5-8 is faultless


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JG, I'm glad the ones you have are consistent. Mine will run a box test, but when you run them up to edge of adjustment things will sometimes get weird.

Are you working your way up to 900 or going from your zero straight to 900 and back again?

Try going from zero to 900 and back again and see what she does. Do it 8 or 10 times. About half the time my zero is off with VX3's

And with the VX6, Most of the time it's off and it's been on two proven shooters with two different sets of Warne Fixed rings.

I'm not bitching about them and I like the scopes. Good bang for the buck IMO, the ones I've got just have those limitations, certainly still usable.

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I don't have my range book with me so and I am away from home, but I do know what I did. I made up a target board 2 meters high and placed it at 200m where the rifle was zeroed and shot a 3 shot group, I had calculated the clicks to get a 20" rise on the target and fired a 3 shot group, was not 20" ( but might be my calculation ) i then reversed the clicks and fired 3 shots did not make it back to zero, re zeroed rifle and repeated as above and was closer to the 20" and still did not come back to zero.

I then did as above with my VX3 2.5-8 and it performed perfect

Groups were shot off a bench and Lead Sled


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I am no long range turret spinner, but I like to test my limitations and learn as I go


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Originally Posted by Jordan Smith
Originally Posted by Oheremicus
The SWFA scopes have never been tested against like priced Leupolds under the same conditions. Simple enough ? E


You're right. SWFA SS are cheaper scopes...They're also a heck of a lot more reliable, on average, when it comes to tracking fidelity and RTZ.


I guess FormD was right when he said the Mk4's were just rebadged hunting scopes.

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Instead of improving the product.
You get Alphabet Soup, straight out of the lupie advertising department.
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Originally Posted by RDFinn
I guess FormD was right when he said the Mk4's were just rebadged hunting scopes.


I believe that applies to the variables.

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Yes, I believe you're right.

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FormD uses an old fixed 6x Leupold Ultra a lot. I wouldn't mind getting my hands on one either.

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That's a rare bird all right. His was the first on I've ever seen.

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Originally Posted by mathman
Originally Posted by RDFinn
I guess FormD was right when he said the Mk4's were just rebadged hunting scopes.


I believe that applies to the variables.


Yes, the 3.5x10 in particular

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Originally Posted by mathman
FormD uses an old fixed 6x Leupold Ultra a lot. I wouldn't mind getting my hands on one either.


I've never seen or heard of that scope, only the 10X.

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Originally Posted by Take_a_knee
Originally Posted by mathman
FormD uses an old fixed 6x Leupold Ultra a lot. I wouldn't mind getting my hands on one either.


I've never seen or heard of that scope, only the 10X.


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Thanks Mathman. I've of the opinion that knob twisting might be overated for a truly light mountain rifle. A 6x36 Leupy with the LRD reticle will do 450yd if you'll do and that is probably about as far as most of us have any business taking a poke with a light rifle off of a pack or from prone.

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