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7X57, 6.5X55, AND 257 Roberts. All three!  SUPER loonie. One vote per citizen, please. 
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Well, we're still on the first page. Didja make yer mind up? Didja? Didja?! 
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250-3000 in a strong bolt short action. Make sure you have a twist rate that allows you to use 120g bullets for your deer.
Just so well balanced.
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7X57, 6.5X55, AND 257 Roberts. All three! Yep . . . gotta love short action performance in a long action round 
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7mm08.... what's not to like!
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You must have a magnum sighted in and ready for that long shot! A rifle that will reach out there! Of course the 270 and 30-06 will shoot far but a magnum will go further. Another idea is a target rifle. I have shot in competition all year around. More shots fired than hunting. Check with the NRA for events near where you live and there are also postal matches. http://compete.nra.org
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What does the 7-08 bring to mind not much. ...but dead deer...
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Broncos are officially the worst team in the nation this year.
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Another for the 7x57. Just a great cartridge. 1-9 twist and you are ready for just about everything you had mentioned. I have a 7-08 as well, but the 7x57 gets more field time!
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I have often found myself yearning for a new chambering for no particular reason. I built myself a 7mm-08, on a Turkish Mauser, just because I liked the concept (this was when the 7mm-08 first came out). I liked the rifle. It shot great, functioned great, and was a very practical hunting rifle in all respects. So I changed it. It became a 6mm Remington, a 260, a 308 and today, it is chambered for the 8x57; just as it was in the beginning.
I like the 6.5x55 so I've had a few and presently have a fairly nice Mauser in that chambering. Given that I have the 6.5x55, one has to wonder why on earth I am in the middle of building a 256 Newton.
Anyway, I think you should go for a 7x57. GD
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I'm going to buy another rifle to hunt with this Fall ( I certainly don't need one, but you know how that goes). I have a few chamberings not currently in the safe, and I can't make up my mind which to add, so I figured who better to make up my mind for me than a bunch of rifle loonies sitting around the Fire? I most commonly hunt varmints, deer and Black bear, but also hogs, exotics, and an occasional foray for an elk (probably will take a 270 or 06). Deer being what I hunt the most.
I have reloaded for close to 20 years and I use a chronograph, so loading for older cartridges that are not commonly listed in manuals is not a huge hurdle. With all that said, here is the list I am trying to choose from. The one most recommended in this thread is the chambering I will purchase a rifle for and use, at least on a few hunts, this Fall:
7mm Mauser (7x57)
6.5 Swede
6.5 Creedmoor (I have a 260 rem)
250 Savage (careful with elk)
257 Bob (should have kept my last one) and (careful with elk)
7mm-08 (never owned one)
300 savage (gotta be a 99?)
What say ye? While I fully understand requesting recommendations and considering them in the selection process, I fail to understand purchasing a rifle based solely on whatever gets the most recommendations. My .257 Roberts is my favorite rifle and is a great dual-purpose varmint/big game cartridge. I load it with 75g V-MAX for prairie poodles and coyotes and 120g A-Frames for deer and elk. For antelope it gets 100g TTSX or 110g AccuBond. The Roberts is a better choice for handloaders than those that don�t, due to a rather limited selection of factory ammo. That said, and even as a handloader, I would probably look for a .260 Rem if purchasing a rifle with similar capabilities today. A Savage 99 has long been on my want list but I can�t seem to find one in good shape that is in a price range I�m willing to pay. When I do, it will be chambered for .308 Win rather than the .300 Savage. You already have a .260 Rem and none of the cartridges you list adds much if any real capability, so let me suggest some alternatives: 1. .30-30 lever If you don�t already have one, why not? Nothing beats a lever gun for sheer fun and the .30-30 will do most jobs and is easy on the shoulder. 2. .375 Win lever Somewhat hard to find but a fun gun. Mine has only taken antelope but I�ve hunted elk with it. Not a long range cartridge but a thumper and great for close range (woods, heavy brush, etc.) work. A 220g Hornady at 2230fps will do for deer out to 250-300 yards. 3. .45-70 lever Awesome fun, from �mild to wild�. I load mine with 13.5g HS6 and 300 and 350g hardcast for 1167fps and 1097fps respectively. Last time I checked, a box of 20 was costing me about $2.50. My girls love this load, as do I. On the other extreme I have my �Rhino Blaster� loads, 460g hardcast at 1812fps. Brutal on both ends. For more mundane hunting, 300-350g jacketed at around 2100-2200fps. Took a 6x6 bull elk at 213 lasered yards with a 350g North Fork. The bull stood for a few seconds, then tipped over. I�d reach out to 300 yards (-22�) with this load but after that the trajectory becomes a significant issue. Over the years I�ve worked up more loads for the .45-70 than any other rifle. 4. .338 Federal Don�t have one but find it an interesting cartridge. Would love to have one in a compact, lightweight rifle. Seems like it would be a great choice for deer, bear and hogs, even elk at ranges I�ve taken most of mine.
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7x57 Mauser,the name just rolls off the tongue and brings up images of Jack & Eleanor O'Conner,W.D.M. Bell,the Boer War,Spanish-American War etc...
What does the 7-08 bring to mind not much. Sweet Jesus, it's a hunting rifle, not a masturbatory fantasy. You boys with all your romance with rifles need to find something better to rub your dicks on.
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Is that what people are referring to when they say "nice wood?"
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I'm going to buy another rifle to hunt with this Fall ( I certainly don't need one, but you know how that goes). I have a few chamberings not currently in the safe, and I can't make up my mind which to add, so I figured who better to make up my mind for me than a bunch of rifle loonies sitting around the Fire? I most commonly hunt varmints, deer and Black bear, but also hogs, exotics, and an occasional foray for an elk (probably will take a 270 or 06). Deer being what I hunt the most.
I have reloaded for close to 20 years and I use a chronograph, so loading for older cartridges that are not commonly listed in manuals is not a huge hurdle. With all that said, here is the list I am trying to choose from. The one most recommended in this thread is the chambering I will purchase a rifle for and use, at least on a few hunts, this Fall:
7mm Mauser (7x57)
6.5 Swede
6.5 Creedmoor (I have a 260 rem)
250 Savage (careful with elk)
257 Bob (should have kept my last one) and (careful with elk)
7mm-08 (never owned one)
300 savage (gotta be a 99?)
What say ye? First blush: 7mm-08 More importantly, I'd be considering the rifle itself. Regarding "holes" in your lineup, what are you lacking? Do you have an all-weather hard use rifle? Do you have a short/handy carbine? Does a pretty walnut "beauty queen" appeal to you? I think it's fine to have some overlap concerning chamberings/calibers, especially when the rifles are notably different and fill different roles. Two of my father's favorite rifles are .308 bolt guns, but one is a heavy-ish tactical style rifle while the other is an 18.5" carbine.
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I happen to like WOMEN and RIFLES!
BTW, I have both 7-08 and 7x57 and have a real hard time making a choice. I shoot 120 gr out of the 7-08, with a variable scope and 140 gr from the 7x57 with a 6x fixed scope. I pick up whichever I'm in the mood for that day.
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I didn't use to worry about components, but these days I'm glad I can make any brass I need from .308 or .30-06 brass. Almost anything I need, anyway.
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Well, we're still on the first page. Didja make yer mind up? Didja? Didja?! Looks like the results so far are: 7-08 11 votes 7x57 7 votes 6.5x55 2 votes 257 Bob 2 votes 250-3K 1 vote
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Coyote_HunterWhile I fully understand requesting recommendations and considering them in the selection process, I fail to understand purchasing a rifle based solely on whatever gets the most recommendations. I wanted to start a thread on the Fire. A Savage 99 has long been on my want list but I can�t seem to find one in good shape that is in a price range I�m willing to pay. When I do, it will be chambered for .308 Win rather than the .300 Savage. You've really confused things, dammit. I have most of those you mention, but I definitely agree with your Savage 99 thinking...
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7x57 with a 160 gr bullet and then go kill deer or elk. Half the pleasure i get from hunting is from the rifle i'm using
A Doe walks out of the woods today and says, that is the last time I'm going to do that for Two Bucks.
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