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Torn between a portable sporter, or a stand/bench gun that will be carried less, but deer/hogs from a blind.

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Bartlein will likely be the tube

If a carry rifle - contour -

#2 just not as stiff as I want, so Thinking a custom 2.5 so it is a tad heavier, yet lighter than a #3. Length 22-23, 22.5 might be the ideal wink

That would go into a McM edge or swirly

If a stand rifle, thinking a #4 or Light Palma, nothing lighter, though nothing more than a Rem V/Sendero contour. This would be a 21 to 21.5 to maneuver well from blinds.

A McM handle that would be suitable for hunting, Tac-style not my thing, and some add too much weight.

Reason for a 2.5 in a sporter, figure it would = a 3 fluted weight

Same for a Light Palma or #4 if I go short/heavier, it would be like an LTR in weight and balance.

Anyone done a Bartlein 2.5 ?? Seen one over on AR done on an Alpine in Triple Deuce in an edge, looked PERFECT.

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A rock Creek #3 is perfect in my opinion, and the Bartlein 2B is just a little heavier where it tapers from the shank, if I was building the 2B would get the nod!

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Bartlein makes a 2B contour which is basically the same as everyone else's #3. Bartlein's #3 contour is about the same as everybody else's #4. They do make it confusing.

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I'll be ordering a Bartlein "Medium Sporter" 2B soon for a build. That in a Classic Edge and a Borden Alpine or Pierce Ti should make the perfect 7mm-08 build. I'll let you know how it turns out in a year or so.


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Never seen a lighter rig that couldn't be used in a stand but I'd not want to hump around a chunk.

I think I have 2 barrels that are #3 contours, they don't hunt. Give me a modest contour every time.


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Yep. A good 7.5-8.5lb rig of #3-ish contour can be very "shootable", especially in a modest chambering. We don't walk lots of miles around here, so going standard-fill for balance is probably how I'd go. Edge would get less contour.


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List out all the guns with specs you have now...will make the input easier for others and yourself...you will probably see you don't need one so make what you want...


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Get a Bartlein 2B!

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Or a Bartlein "Remington Magnum Sporter."

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Originally Posted by Steelhead
Never seen a lighter rig that couldn't be used in a stand but I'd not want to hump around a chunk.

I think I have 2 barrels that are #3 contours, they don't hunt. Give me a modest contour every time.


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Had a magnum sporter in 260s around 23" in Standard fill, if I build a sporter to tote, I'd want it around 7 1/4 - 7.5# probably all up.

Re: heavy bbls, I too have had many, often varmint contour, have a light palma now in a 6.5x47 that I am very fond of....

If I build a heavier contour i.e. #4 Bart or Light Palma, its use will be dedicated to stand hunting and bench work. Looking to do a 7/08, had many in the past, always wanted to have a custom done up. Seen a few guns that looked very nice that had 21" #4 Bartleins in 308 that were built for hunting. A rifle like this will not be carried much.

I found the links to that 2.5 - it was a Krieger, so perhaps not the same as a "Tweener" Bartlein, but it is in 222.

http://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/...0931#4821060931

http://forums.accuratereloading.com/eve/...7641#6471097641


None the less, I agree, if an edge, need lighter to match/balance. I just never was fond of muzzle light or really light rifles, so a 2.5 or it sounds like a 2B might be the ticket if I were to use it mostly in the field and for extended carry. Yes, I have used lighter bbls in stands, but I would not want a short light bbl. 22-23" would be the length.

Seems hard to justify going full custom in a standard sporter that is in a chambering that you can buy in a factory rifle...but I know many 7/08 sporters are built in #2 and #3 specs, so owners felt so inclined.

If I hang on to my 47, I suppose I could let it be my bench rifle, just always wanted to see what a custom 7/08 would do re: accuracy, and heavier is simply steadier for me. Shot some groups in the .2s and .3s at 200 yds with a 21" 700 Varmint 7/08 that I threw in a VLS stock that was only floated, factory adjusted trigger. Fluted that rifle would have been more portable, it was better in an HS stock that I used on occasion.

Strictly as a stand rifle, if I want to really stretch a shot in more open country, I feel more confident in holding POA thru shot cycle. Experience for me has been a 20-21" gets out a window much easier than longish tube.

So 2B - I will have to check that out if I go that route, does anyone know the muzzle OD at 22-23" if shank cut back to lose excess weight.


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65BR, I'm a little confused about the bartlein 2B nomenclature.

I do have a barreled action with a 30 cal Bartlein #2 sitting in the safe. The barrel has a 1-inch shank. At 22 inches the OD measures 0.635 inches.

FWIW, I measured my Rock #3 at the same point, and she measures 0.640 inches.

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I think Rocks are a little slimmer than most. At least my #2 seems to be.

In 7mm, I'd go with a #3 and keep it under 23" with a modest shank. A Brux 3 with .25-.5" shank and 22" would be a nice in a lightish' handle. Flute it if you don't like weight forward.


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Originally Posted by MadMooner
I think Rocks are a little slimmer than most. At least my #2 seems to be.

In 7mm, I'd go with a #3 and keep it under 23" with a modest shank. A Brux 3 with .25-.5" shank and 22" would be a nice in a lightish' handle. Flute it if you don't like weight forward.


That's exactly what I did with my last 7MM-08, #3 Brux with a .75" shank/fluted & finished at 22.5". Balances really nice in a Classic Edge.


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Rock uses slimmer contours than the Brux/Bartlein/Krieger crew.

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Thanks guys, Oregon - as many sporters as you have built, sounds like you have it worked out smile Thanks PG, I knew Bart was heavier than others, not looked at Brux contour specs.

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