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Action Screw Torque on FL bedded rifle #8760131 04/08/14
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 45,995 Colorado S smokepole OP Campfire 'Bwana
OP smokepole Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 45,995 Colorado	Are the front action screws on rifles with a full-length bedded barrel typically torqued down tighter than one that's not FL bedded? If so, what's the reason for this? A wise man is frequently humbled.

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Re: Action Screw Torque on FL bedded rifle smokepole #8760974 04/08/14
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,052 Banana Belt, Montana M Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna
Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna M Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,052 Banana Belt, Montana	No. “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck

Re: Action Screw Torque on FL bedded rifle Mule Deer #8761817 04/09/14
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 45,995 Colorado S smokepole OP Campfire 'Bwana
OP smokepole Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 45,995 Colorado	Thanks. A wise man is frequently humbled.

Re: Action Screw Torque on FL bedded rifle smokepole #8764988 04/10/14
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 7,413 SW Georgia G Godogs57 Campfire Tracker
Godogs57 Campfire Tracker G Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 7,413 SW Georgia	I always wondered what a good average ft lbs of torque for action screws should be...I just always got em tight and left it at that. You only live once, but...if you do it right, once is enough.

Re: Action Screw Torque on FL bedded rifle Godogs57 #8765188 04/10/14
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 45,995 Colorado S smokepole OP Campfire 'Bwana
OP smokepole Campfire 'Bwana S Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 45,995 Colorado	I think that's the case with the front screw. A wise man is frequently humbled.

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Re: Action Screw Torque on FL bedded rifle Godogs57 #8779451 04/14/14
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 16,367 Las Vegas NM M mark shubert Campfire Ranger
mark shubert Campfire Ranger M Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 16,367 Las Vegas NM	Originally Posted by Godogs57 I always wondered what a good average ft lbs of torque for action screws should be...I just always got em tight and left it at that. IIRC 40 inch pounds front, and 12 inch pounds tang were suggested for a typical bolt action rifle. I wish I knew where to look that up! Mark I've always been a curmudgeon - now I'm an old curmudgeon. ~Molɔ̀ːn Labé Skýla~

Re: Action Screw Torque on FL bedded rifle mark shubert #8779925 04/15/14
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 10,445 north central PA S shootinurse Campfire Outfitter
shootinurse Campfire Outfitter S Joined: May 2005 Posts: 10,445 north central PA	The FAT wrench from Midway insert recommends 40 in/lbs front and rear for stocks that aren't pillar bedded and 65 in/lbs for those that are. "Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing." Robert E. Howard

Re: Action Screw Torque on FL bedded rifle shootinurse #8779983 04/15/14
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,123 S.W. Wis. aalf Campfire Ranger
aalf Campfire Ranger Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 16,123 S.W. Wis.	A well know smith says in a properly bedded stock, the screws are only there to keep the action from falling out of the stock. If you have to use the screws for a tuning aid, the bedding is not stress free.

Re: Action Screw Torque on FL bedded rifle Godogs57 #8779990 04/15/14
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 13,860 T Take_a_knee Campfire Outfitter
Take_a_knee Campfire Outfitter T Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 13,860	65 in/lb for a Rem 700 in an H&S stock. The M24 comes with a preset torque wrench for that setting. The nut on Leupold MKIV rings uses the same as well. Last edited by Take_a_knee; 04/15/14.

Re: Action Screw Torque on FL bedded rifle Take_a_knee #8801698 04/22/14
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Quartermaster Campfire Regular Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 631 upstate NY	My smith (Bob White)beds and pillar beds all my customs. He says to tighten front to 40 inch pounds and rear to 35. He also says to tighten/loosen rear first in the final torqueing and removing. My rifles were all put in laminated stocks if that makes a difference Last edited by 89tenbus; 04/23/14. NRA Life Member "You might as well be wrong, as be right and not know it"

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Re: Action Screw Torque on FL bedded rifle aalf #8801767 04/22/14
Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,052 Banana Belt, Montana M Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna
Mule Deer Campfire Kahuna M Joined: Jul 2001 Posts: 60,052 Banana Belt, Montana	aalf, That's been my experience. As a more general comment, don't know why tightening the rear screw first would help anything, much less loosening it first. “Montana seems to me to be what a small boy would think Texas is like from hearing Texans.” John Steinbeck

Re: Action Screw Torque on FL bedded rifle Mule Deer #8801866 04/22/14
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hicountry Campfire Tracker Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 6,069 Northern Virginia	I go 55 inch/lbs, front and rear.... Tony

Re: Action Screw Torque on FL bedded rifle hicountry #8802081 04/22/14
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 11,482 lawrence county MO L ldholton Campfire Outfitter
ldholton Campfire Outfitter L Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 11,482 lawrence county MO	A little tip here , stand your rifle up grip end of forearm , put one finger on barrel. lightly . loosen screws any order back and forth . if barrel moves at the time of loosening your bedding is not right.

Re: Action Screw Torque on FL bedded rifle ldholton #8804726 04/23/14
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Quartermaster Campfire Regular Joined: Oct 2012 Posts: 631 upstate NY	I'm not sure what the significance is with the order of tightening and loosening the action screws as I mentioned above. It was the answer that I got when I asked the question, possibly only pertaining to laminated stocks, which all mine are. He has 50 years of precision gun making, bench rest shooting, and was president of the International Benchrest Shooting Association for 7 terms and still sits on the board. Who are we to question someone with those credentials. I know I can't. This question has probably been addressed before in the gunsmithing section. More than likely a few times. I guess we will all do what continues to work for each of us. There is always more than 1 way to skin a cat. Last edited by 89tenbus; 04/23/14. NRA Life Member "You might as well be wrong, as be right and not know it"

Re: Action Screw Torque on FL bedded rifle Quartermaster #8804758 04/23/14
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,943 G GF1 Campfire Tracker
GF1 Campfire Tracker G Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 4,943	The Biesens, Al and Roger, torque their fine rifles "farmer tight". I asked Roger about it, and he replied something along the line of Aalf's comment above. He also noted that the north/south orientation of his guard screws allows the tightness to be easily repeated, and is also a tell tale of a screw coming loose.

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