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Why even tell ANYONE that you are carrying a handgun? No body needs to know and should not know until you have to use it, which may never happen. Just keep quite about it.

I'm not sure what the purpose was of your Facebook page but nevertheless:

If this issue is important, you may collect up some info. Google church shootings, church violence, child abductions etc. Then Google church security. Church security is a very real issue these days. At least one of the local big Baptist churches here in town (and a growing number of churches across the country) has multiple armed people in each service, each on the "security" team.
Perhaps make up a handout with some info then go before your church council, session, elders, deacons or whatever the governing body of your church, and make a case for some more active security.

You may also point out there is absolutely no case that can be made scripturally, preventing a person or body of persons from defending themselves against deadly force.
Most people are initially appalled at the suggestion of having a gun in church but typically, without thinking it through. Just like spreading the Gospel, don't expect them to absorb and accept it all at one time. Plant some seeds and get the conversation started among the governing body. The wheels of change seem to change veerrrryyy slowly in a long established church.
Sometimes it just takes a little information.

And yes, the Bible says correctly "thou shalt not murder".

Couldn't agree more. I live in a state where I can open carry...I have NO intention to open carry, but I'm glad I have the option.

Open carry, to me, just offers a CYA in case your shirt or jacket lifts and you inadvertently "flash" your CCW.

Well said.

Me too. Vast majority of the time I want to look just like the other sheeple. Other than carrying when out on a walk around home or a jaunt thru a national forest I want mine concealed.

Obviously you do not pay attention to the news...a gun free zone is a target rich environment for those that seek to do harm...

I bet you have a spare tire in your car don't you

had the janitor at the mall where I work ask me recently if it bothered me he carried concealed


NOPE, quite the opposite, it makes me happy


he explained he was gonna go ask all the merchants to see if any of them had a problem.

I told him if the man that writes your check allows it, ain't nobody else's biz.

you survey enough folks you're bound to find someone it "upsets" or leaves uncomfortable

your biz, is your biz


weirdest thing is, I believe the young feller took my advice.

The church I attended in Anchorage was pretty good size and had quite a security system in place. I talked to the head security guy and let him know I carried, not a problem, good to know who does. I carry since I moved here, I figure as they get to know me they won't be concerned. Concealed carry is what it is. So long as you don't violate, I don't see an issue.

Statistically, you are highly unlikely to die in a house fire. Do you have fire extinguishers and smoke detectors in your home? If so, does that make you paranoid?

Most churches have fire extinguishers, smoke detectors, fire alarms, A.E.D.'s, First Aid kits, etc. just in case something very unlikely to happen, actually DOES happen. Mostly because common sense says unlikely things CAN happen, including violence.

Google 'church shooting'. You'll get quite a few hits.

Would it change your way of thinking if you had previously arrested several members or put their family members in prison for a very long time? It's not paranoia, it is good sound judgement that The Lord gave me a brain for. Do you also think it impossible that someone of another faith, sect, or organization could come inside the service and harm someone including me and my family? History tells me yes. I would be a fool to be ill prepared.

Do you wear a seat belt when you go to and from church. If so are you paranoid or are you just expecting to get in an accident. I don't carry anywhere because I expect trouble I carry everywhere I go for the same reason I wear seat belts whenever I get in a car.

Three of the four members of our pastoral staff recently went through CC classes. In Illinois, they are quite expensive; I can't imagine that they did it just for the fun of it. We have a security team; currently the only members who carry are current or retired LEOs. As licenses are issued, more will undoubtedly be carrying.

We have had two Handgun 101 classes on the church premises. They cannot be sponsored by the church, for insurance reasons. We have had nearly thirty take the class, about half women.

Well they are likely to feel a lot different about it after some dick weed from the Religion of love comes and shoots up their church or cutting off heads some Sunday.

I don't tell anyone I am carrying, some of the others that carry know but that is different, we need to know in case of an incident. The average parishioner there has no clue although the pastor agrees with us (most are retired cops) but some just ccw holders.

You can't fix stupid.

Any man who goes to Church and is afraid of the man sitting next to him because he has a conceal weapon , needs to find another Church with a more Liberal Membership .

I don't carry because I am afraid for my life but because I am afraid for the life of my wife and lives of my church family. There are many who don't carry, are too young or too old to carry or simply don't have the training or fortitude to carry and potentially use a weapon in defense of life. There are many who would or could harm those people I love and there are few enough men willing to stand in that gap. I for one intend, to be part of that line in the sand.

Mart

Several CCW folks in our church who carry all the time, including myself of course. I have had a couple of folks hug me, sense that the gun was there and get a quizzical look on their face and at this point I quietly inform them that I have been legally carrying there ever since they met me.

At my suggestion and our pastors enthusiastic blessing, we gave away an AR-15 Rifle as a door prize to get ordinarily non church going folks to come and see our heavy metal Easter show. Packed out the place.

If you are attending a church that is uncomfortable with members having firearms, then it is likely that your church elders or leaders are making other ill informed and poor decisions. It is also somewhat likely that your church is a member of the world council of churches and quite possibly has other liberal leanings or beliefs.

Short version, if it were me I would start looking for a new church, immediately. I will be very surprised if your place of worship is not pretty liberal with theology and political views. If I am right, they definately do not deserve your support via attendance or giving.