|
|
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,681
Campfire Tracker
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 3,681 |
I bought a 223 Tikka T3 with the 1-10 barrel about a year ago. This was a few months before the RAR 223 hit the market. Considering the price difference I would have bought the RAR if it was available in 223 at that time.
I've got no complaints on the Tikka or the 1-10 barrel. Mine's the most out of the box accurate rifle I've ever bought. It's good with everything from 40 gr Ballistic Tips & V-maxes to 63 gr Sierra SMPS and everything between but based on the what I've read here the RAR would seem to be a better value.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,032
Campfire Tracker
|
|
Campfire Tracker
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,032 |
the tikka is more refined than the RAR ... although it sounds a little strange saying that, seeing as how theyre both plasticky.
Uber Demanding Rifle Aficionado
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 1,122
Campfire Regular
|
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 1,122 |
The RAR seems to be the better value as long as you don't consider these factors
The tikka has a match grade lapped barrel mated to a blue printed trued action.
Anyone care to expound on the tolerances the RAR is held to?
Last time I checked I can get a Rem 700 action trued up for about $600. Gunsmith requested a tikka action if I decide to have him do another custom as according to him the actions are true and require no machine work.
Sure sounds like entry level to me!
The RAR may be the best bang for your buck for an entry level rifle however the tikka is the best bang for your buck for a mid entry rifle.
It's difficult to classify rifles that have drastically different standards in machine work in the same class unless you're willing to overlook the process that results in consistent accuracy in rifle after rifle after rifle after rifle.
The RAR will not stand up in this regard.
Shod
The 6.5 Swede, Before Gay Was Ok
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 17,927
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 17,927 |
Price is never a good reason to buy anything.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 17,927
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 17,927 |
Except for SWFA FF's 
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 8,896
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 8,896 |
The RAR seems to be the better value as long as you don't consider these factors
The tikka has a match grade lapped barrel mated to a blue printed trued action.
Anyone care to expound on the tolerances the RAR is held to?
Last time I checked I can get a Rem 700 action trued up for about $600. Gunsmith requested a tikka action if I decide to have him do another custom as according to him the actions are true and require no machine work.
Sure sounds like entry level to me!
The RAR may be the best bang for your buck for an entry level rifle however the tikka is the best bang for your buck for a mid entry rifle.
It's difficult to classify rifles that have drastically different standards in machine work in the same class unless you're willing to overlook the process that results in consistent accuracy in rifle after rifle after rifle after rifle.
The RAR will not stand up in this regard.
Shod Who the hell cares about the tolerances if they both shoot similarly?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 8,896
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 8,896 |
What's funny is how a mag and "closed" ejection port on the Tikka "sucks" but is OK for the RAR.
Nah, they both suck in that regard, but it's easier to overlook on the rifle that's darned near half the price of the other. And yes, a Tikka is still considered a flaming POS.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,193
Campfire Regular
|
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,193 |
Price is never a good reason to buy anything. The RAR is almost to the point of being a disposable rifle. The price is the reason I bought one, maybe a bad idea but, I hope not. I have more expensive rifles but have a hard time letting them bounce around in the hunting truck, on the ATV, in the mud, snow, rain, dirt and dust but I have no hesitation with the RAR and it shoots under 1", just doesn't do it with as much "style". I guess when it quits working I'll toss it and buy another. 
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 17,927
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 17,927 |
I'll give you $50 for it.....
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 17,927
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 17,927 |
I won't lie, I do like that little 1:8 223 Ranch shorty...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 17,527
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 17,527 |
A closed port makes the action stiffer, and in theory more accurate.
You don't need an open port with a magazine fed platform anyway. You can still drop rounds in and shoot from the bench, so what is the difference?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,193
Campfire Regular
|
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 1,193 |
I'll give you $50 for it..... Maybe when I'm ready to "dispose" of it!
Last edited by willecoyote; 10/20/14.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 1,122
Campfire Regular
|
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 1,122 |
And yes, a Tikka is still considered a flaming POS. [/quote]
We've already debated the flames and queers discussion and I fully understand where you stand on that issue. No thanks!
Shod
The 6.5 Swede, Before Gay Was Ok
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,859
Campfire Regular
|
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,859 |
Gosh, there must be something wrong with me. Between my Daughter and I we have 5 Tikkas. They all shoot under an inch and the Tikka Compact she just got shoots around a half inch, and these are 5 shot groups. I also have a new Ruger Hawkeye that is extremely accurate. Talking to Ruger about the American they said the best you could get the trigger pull down to would be three and a half lbs if you were lucky. Our Tikkas are set at 2 1/2 lbs. Not knocking the Americans but my choice would be the Tikkas although Ruger has some of the best customer service in the industry.
Last edited by coyote268; 10/20/14.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 78,300
Campfire Oracle
|
|
Campfire Oracle
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 78,300 |
"...the left considers you vermin, and they'll kill you given the chance..." Bristoe
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 15,565
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 15,565 |
If you want to spend more to get less, Tikka is a great place to start. A low budget rifle without a low budget price......
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 28,235
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 28,235 |
If you want to spend more to get less, Tikka is a great place to start. A low budget rifle without a low budget price...... You left out "high quality performance".
It is irrelevant what you think. What matters is the TRUTH.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 1,122
Campfire Regular
|
|
Campfire Regular
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 1,122 |
If you want to spend more to get less, Tikka is a great place to start. A low budget rifle without a low budget price...... Tikka may not seem like a low budget price for your pay grade however most folks know that it's mere pennies and easy as pissing in a pot. Big hole, easy shot Hint......try some education, and get a job. Shod
Last edited by Shodd; 10/20/14.
The 6.5 Swede, Before Gay Was Ok
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 17,927
Campfire Ranger
|
|
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 17,927 |
It's funny to hear guys with cabinets full of guns whine about price....
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 12,580
Campfire Outfitter
|
|
Campfire Outfitter
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 12,580 |
The original poster didn't ask what those of us who have both think of them based upon price paid, just what we think about them in relation to each other.
Me, I'll take a Tikka if you are giving it to me any day ending in "Y"
If you want to start talking about which one I would buy for a beater, the answer may be different....
|
|
|
|
|
365 members (264mag, 16penny, 1beaver_shooter, 10gaugemag, 222ND, 17CalFan, 43 invisible),
2,815
guests, and
1,071
robots. |
|
Key:
Admin,
Global Mod,
Mod
|
|
|
Forums81
Topics1,191,277
Posts18,467,599
Members73,927
| |
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023
|
|
|
|
