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Originally Posted by rcamuglia
My point is that if you're not capable of both, you are an incomplete hunter.

Kinda like Sporting.

If you get to a teal station and can't hit teal, you have a hole in your game.

I've called elk in so close I could have killed them with an axe.


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I get what you are saying and continuing the logic we are all "incomplete" as hunters.

That, for me at least, is the fascination with hunting. There is always a skill set to improve, be it on the side of getting closer or on the side of adding reach.

I think some of the rub on the adding reach side is the equipment race. It takes the right tools, but just because a fellow spent a bunch of coin does not make him a LR killer. It just means he is ready to start practicing. grin

But you already knew all that and I am just preaching to the choir. laugh


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The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
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Originally Posted by rcamuglia
My point is that if you're not capable of both, you are an incomplete hunter.


Really? I know guys who only hunt with a bow, because that's how they want to hunt. They couldn't care less about long range hunting. They've hunted with rifles, but have moved on.

To call them incomplete hunters is just projecting your own personal ethic onto everyone else.

Now, if a guy wants to hunt long range, but can't hit at long range, then he has some work to do, and could be called "incomplete."




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It's no different.

Guys are always trying to extend their effective range with archery as well.

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Projecting personal ethics on others is what America is all about. laugh


What ever tool you decide to use on a hunt should be mastered to a certain level of competency. I think folks should at least try to be as good as their equipment


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The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
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Originally Posted by SLM
It's no different.

Guys are always trying to extend their effective range with archery as well.


You mean like the guys who choose to hunt with a traditional bow?

Yes, they practice so that they can maximize their range with that particular weapon.

To say they are pursuing "long-range" traditional bowhunting is laughable though.

Come to think of it, calling anything done with any kind of bow "long-range hunting" (which is what we're talking about) is laughable.



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Originally Posted by rcamuglia
What ever tool you decide to use on a hunt should be mastered to a certain level of competency. I think folks should at least try to be as good as their equipment


No doubt about that.



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Originally Posted by smokepole

Come to think of it, calling anything done with any kind of bow "long-range hunting" (which is what we're talking about) is laughable.


It's all relative.

I think there are long range shots with a bow, a pellet gun, a .22LR, etc...


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The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
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Originally Posted by smokepole
Originally Posted by SLM
It's no different.

Guys are always trying to extend their effective range with archery as well.


You mean like the guys who choose to hunt with a traditional bow?

Yes, they practice so that they can maximize their range with that particular weapon.

To say they are pursuing "long-range" traditional bowhunting is laughable though.

Come to think of it, calling anything done with any kind of bow "long-range hunting" (which is what we're talking about) is laughable.


Is stretching bow shots out to 100+ really that different? ( to keep the semantics out, I'm obviously talking about compound bows)

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Originally Posted by rcamuglia
My point is that if you're not capable of both, you are an incomplete hunter.


Ridiculous.


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I go absent for a month or so and return to see this thread still kicking. Seems I've started a [bleep] storm. We may be accused of not having any common sense, any heart, or any clue but we'll never be accused of having no passion.

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If you're driving a Bugatti that is capable of 240 mph top speed, but your driving skill only allows you to run it to 55 mph, you're an incomplete driver


Originally Posted by Bristoe
The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
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Ridiculous argument rca.

I've seen the most competent, trained, snipers from here and abroad shoot thousands of rounds in the ever present TX Panhandle wind. These guys are as good as it gets, and their trainer is as good as it gets, period. The wind baffles them sometimes, and lots of times on shot #1. Why should I believe you or anyone else for that matter are more competent than they are?


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You seem to think that if a shot is presented, be it 10 yards or 1000, it has to be taken.

At neither range is this the case


Originally Posted by Bristoe
The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
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Not hardly. You're the one that said "if you're not capable of both, you're an incomplete hunter". I just pointed out why that is a ridiculous point of view, at least IMO, and stated why. You and nobody else on the planet are capable all the time. No headstamp, bullet, rifle, scope, wind meter, etc can come together to dope wind 100% of the time. That's my point. I have a rifle and ammo capable of 900yds easily with no wind.


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Originally Posted by rcamuglia
Originally Posted by smokepole

Come to think of it, calling anything done with any kind of bow "long-range hunting" (which is what we're talking about) is laughable.


It's all relative.

I think there are long range shots with a bow, a pellet gun, a .22LR, etc...


Sure there are. Is that what you were talking about when you made the comment that I responded to? Bows and pellet guns?



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Originally Posted by Bristoe
The people wringing their hands over Trump's rhetoric don't know what time it is in America.
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If a hand fired projectile pokes a hole through clockwork.... and we get a dead critter post haste.... who gives a schitt how it got there... or from how far?


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