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[quote=Angus1895]Two phrases I enjoy over this subject:

Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over, and expecting different results.

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Angus. The problem with your overly long explanation is that very few areas in the country have a vet trained in equine dentistry.

Your entire methodology might very well be 100% correct, but in the real world achieving those goals might be impossible.

As previously posted floating was usually done by a farrier in the earlier days. Then with more and more vets on the scene, it was taken over by them. Still a lot of big and small ranches, outfitters with remudas, and such are still are a long ways from a vet and even if they are, doing even a string of 30-40 horses is cost prohibitive, let alone having a specialize equine dentist do it.

At the turnoff the century at 1900 give or take quite a few years, when there were 5 times as many , if not more equines in use, you can bet they did not meet all your specifications of dental conformation and got along quite well

Horses that are predominantly out on pasture require less dental care than those on processed feed and hay. So they can get along fairly well with yearly or even 2-3 year inspections. Horse that are stalled, etc.,not so much.


I'm not sure if your post was just a general observation or directed at anyone in particular, but even in equine dentistry, one size does not fit all



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You were able to make more sense of that post than I was!



The reply was to me and followed my post, but appears random and irrelevant.


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I was told that exactly the opposite when it come to equine dentistry in the past. Every seventh man in the Cavalry packed a speculum and floats. I have even seen powerfloats that were run by bicycle apparatus. I guess the guy as a kid pedaled the bike while grandpa floated the horse. If one finds a true equine dentist, it will not be insanity, the equines mouth WILL get better, and it WILL get cheaper. My refloats on a balanced mouth are about $125 per year and by gosh they are on the money. I am on the road right now in Minnesota (been here doing teeth since May 19). When I get home to Idaho I will get proficient at photo bucket and show some photo's of my own strings teeth before and after. I will also post some photo's of wild australian mustangs teeth. I know other equine dentists, I bet I could find some one that does what I do that goes through your area. A picture says a thousand words so until I get home I will STFU.
I am only trying to help you have a better Horse/Mule/Donkey. I apologise if I offended anyone. I can tell there is care and concern for the animal out there. (That is why me and my wife just floated near 500 head on this trip) Once again I am not trying to offend anyone, only help.

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Well with that last post you did offend probably quite few.

People here want genuine information, but you don't need to infer that they are stupid after you post that info.

I would be interested in what portion of those 500 horses you have done were on pasture or stalled and what is the type of horse owner you service? Tracks, show, backyard pets?

A simple floating here runs $143 so I doubt a specialist is going to be less.


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I pay 125 to an equine dentist for floating.



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What I will illustrate is once a horse is setup and maintained using the Jeffery Paradigm, as in similar crown height and similar table angles in the cheek teeth. A 5 degree or so incisor table angle and much molar occlusion as possible. It is hard for them to be much work to maintain that way.
You are correct my initial charges to get a horse on the way to being balanced are closer to $225. But once it is balanced The time and therefore the expense of maintaining the equines teeth on a six month or yearly basis take about 15 minutes.This usually occurs on the third visit(3 in 18 months) It is not hard keep a pasture horse balanced on a yearly basis in most cases for under $125. (Unless they are naughty). So that is my point about the insanity deal. If you find the right dentist, pay a little more upfront, you will get really good results in both performance and utilization of feed and most likely end up paying less in the long run.

Anyways I do mostly quarter horses,thoroughbreds, and warmbloods in Minnesota. Most are stalled with turnout. I do a bunch of horses in a valley near days creek Oregon. Those horses grazing on that mountain side have excellent dentition as they are most like a true desert horse and keep their incisors very short. I believe it is all about keeping as little clinical crown in the mouth, the shorter the teeth the less unstable and protuberant they can get. Like I say when I finish emptying out my Moms house and get home I will post some photo's and illustrations.

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Would appreciate the photos or such when you get home.

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