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I was looking at the CZ website and was disappointed to see that their 223 rifles are 1 in 12". Which 223 bolt action rifles are available with a 1 in 8" or a 1 in 9" twist?

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Ruger is 1 in 9" Their cheap is also tight twisted. Remingtons tactical is 1 in 9, Salvage offers 1 in 9�.


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Buy the 1-8 tikka in the classifieds now!


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Tikkas are skookum!


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thanks, I was checking that one out. I have never heard of any Tikka that was not accurate. I used to have a Whitetail Hunter in 30-06 that was sub MOA no matter what I loaded into it. That was factory ammo back before I started reloading. I'm an idiot for letting that rifle go.

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Originally Posted by ingwe
Ruger is 1 in 9" Their cheap is also tight twisted. Remingtons tactical is 1 in 9, Salvage offers 1 in 9�.


I like Rugers!

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The Ruger American .223 has a 1-8 twist.


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Just remember if you buy a fast twist, not to push the lighter jacketed bullets quickly; or its shotgun city.

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Originally Posted by Darkker
Just remember if you buy a fast twist, not to push the lighter jacketed bullets quickly; or its shotgun city.


That's good to know. I plan to use it for coyotes and groundhogs and hopefully not mess up the pelt on the coyotes.

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Depends on the light bullet. I've pushed 40-grain Nosler Ballistic Tips plenty hard in a 1-8 twist with no problems.


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and 40 gr. varmageddons, Vmaxes, blitzkings here.. No breakups.


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Not "light" in bullet weight, light as in construction. RPM destroys things, not velocity.
I already did the calling for you.

http://www.shootersforum.com/ballistics-internal-external/78073-f-y-i-varmint-bullet-rpm-limits.html



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you do know this isn't new information, right?


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I got a question for you dudes�

Shoot a deer with a cnc bullet in a tight twist .223, is it gonna perform, or blow up?

I know a regular 55 grain Hornady performs in a 1 in 12 twist�. but wondered if it would come apart in the 1 in 8???

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I have 2 aftermarket one in eights, never had an issue with 40 VMs or BKs doing anything untoward. You'd have to really make them scream, which seems to me counterproductive anyway in a "big" 22 bigger than BR.
My old factory 1 in 9 Savage also shot 40s without issue, they never blew up, but the harder I pushed, the less well they shot.
I'm just WAITING for someone to neck down those x47 Lapua cases into some kind of nutz 22 wildcatt. Watched a friend shoot his 6x47 bench rifles and was impressed.


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Originally Posted by ingwe
I got a question for you dudes�

Shoot a deer with a cnc bullet in a tight twist .223, is it gonna perform, or blow up?

I know a regular 55 grain Hornady performs in a 1 in 12 twist�. but wondered if it would come apart in the 1 in 8???


I'm betting they work great.. I have to load some of those up this season.


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Originally Posted by ingwe
I got a question for you dudes�

Shoot a deer with a cnc bullet in a tight twist .223, is it gonna perform, or blow up?

I know a regular 55 grain Hornady performs in a 1 in 12 twist�. but wondered if it would come apart in the 1 in 8???


I've shot a couple does with 55 grain Hornadys out of an 8 twist 223 AI. They died promptly with no drama.

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I've shot lot of light bullets through a lot of barrels, and in my experience it takes a HOT barrel and a very thin-skinned bullet ay very high velocity to cause problems.

Some years ago was shooting prairie dogs in Kansas in 100+ degree weather, with ammo using a new thin-jacketed hollow-point bullet from a major manufacturer. I was shooting a .223 and my buddy was shooting a .22-250, and he got the barrel hot enough to burn the forend of his walnut-stocked rifle. There weren't any flames but there was smoke, and we had to dip the rifle into the melted ice-water in a big cooler to put it out.

The other thing that happened was that even after cooling down his rifle in the water, after a few shots accuracy went to hell. We finally shot it on paper, and not only were the shots from a hot barrel scattered, but you could see a swirl of lead around each bullet hole. This didn't happen with the .223, no matter how hot it got. Both rifles had the then-standard twists for each rifle, 1-12 in .223 and 1-14 in .22-250.

Was also once shooting a VERY fast 6mm wildcat on PD's which belonged to a friend of mine. It had a 1-10 twist and after the barrel got warm some bullets didn't make it far. There'd be a puff of something dark maybe 5-10 feet in front of the muzzle, and no bullet strike downrange.

But I've yet to see anything like that happen with a .223 of any twist. Not that it couldn't, but it would take a heck of a lot of heat, probably enough to start cooking off rounds.


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Kimber has a one in nine inch twist.


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Originally Posted by prairie_goat
Originally Posted by ingwe
I got a question for you dudes�

Shoot a deer with a cnc bullet in a tight twist .223, is it gonna perform, or blow up?

I know a regular 55 grain Hornady performs in a 1 in 12 twist�. but wondered if it would come apart in the 1 in 8???


I've shot a couple does with 55 grain Hornadys out of an 8 twist 223 AI. They died promptly with no drama.



Good to know. Thanks PG!


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