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Anyone own one of these? From the pics, they look like they have the FWT contour barrel. Is that right or is it just the pictures?


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Buy one and find out! laugh



Report back here please.


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You're no help. I might want to buy one and have it made into an Ingwe Special. grin


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Rev,you have champagne tastes and a beer budget....















Just like me. wink















That should give you pause.... smile


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Originally Posted by RevMike
You're no help. I might want to buy one and have it made into an Ingwe Special. grin



There is only one Ingwe Special�...


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Elk, that's why I'm saving my pennies! Here's a little something someone - the devil? - sent me just to tempt me.

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Ingwe, they say that imitation is the highest form of flattery. In spite of the fallacy of that statement, I do like the I.S.


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Now�if only you shorten the for end, replace the ebony cap,install a barrel band swivel, wrap around front sight, island rear, one standing one folding, and an english red pad�you'd have something! laugh


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Originally Posted by ingwe
Now�if only you shorten the for end, replace the ebony cap,install a barrel band swivel, wrap around front sight, island rear, one standing one folding, and an english red pad�you'd have something! laugh


Exactly! Except that's a no. 2 contour barrel, which means the barrel is a bit heavy for a true Ingwe Special...which is why I'm wondering about the Cabela rifle (to get back on topic).


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The Cabelas rifle would be just right��.. grin


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I have handled this one:

An Ingwe special

You can zoom in on the photos and see the barrel contour does indeed look like the Fwt. It's still not a terribly light rifle, though, with a dense SG stock on it. IIRC it would be between 7.5 & 8 lbs.

It's tempting, but I've got too many projects already, including a couple of Mausers to nurture.

edit to add - dang I recalled correctly, they list 7 lbs 12 oz for the weight.

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See�.that would be perfect!

It already has an English Red pad, and to do the other mods, plus replace the Cabelas floor plate couldn't cost more that $1K


Soooooo, for only your initial investment of $1399, plus another $1000 you could turn a $1399 gun into a $450 gun! laugh



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I thought it looked like a Featherweight barrel.

And Ingwe, you're talking economics. But since I haven't sold a rifle in 30 years.... All the stuff you mentioned plus a quarter rib. Too bad a Rigby diopter sight with ghost ring won't fit the bolt like it does a M98. No shadow line cheekpiece on these, though. Might be a deal breaker.


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The one and only Ingwe Special doesn't have a shadow line cheekpiece�.

Just sayin'�����





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Actually neither does this, and I expect it wouldn't be too hard to live with.

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Exactamundo! A proper rifle has either no cheekpiece, or a shadow line�

Don't matter what stainless synthetics have! laugh


I think I must take the Ingwe Special back to Texas and slay the mighty axis stag with it�again grin


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Originally Posted by RevMike
Elk, that's why I'm saving my pennies! Here's a little something someone - the devil? - sent me just to tempt me.

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Saaaawwwweeeettttt!

Despite what Ingwe wrote,I would scope that rifle and kill stuff with it. grin


If you want all the "extra's" buy a used 7x57 and spice it up.

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And BTW�..quit showing pics of that rifle�I think I soiled myself again�. blush


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Ohhhhh�I'd scope it��the irons are for�..an emergency.


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Originally Posted by ingwe
And BTW�..quit showing pics of that rifle�I think I soiled myself again�. blush


I thought this was the one that gave you incontinence issues.

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CRAP!!!!


It IS!!!!! shocked


Now there are two that shall haunt my dreams! cry


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Granted,I have not hunted as much as you have Ingwe,but the scopes that went kaput on me has always been on the range,never while hunting. Plus I always take two rifle whenever I go hunting. wink


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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
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Elk, that's why I'm saving my pennies! Here's a little something someone - the devil? - sent me just to tempt me.

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Saaaawwwweeeettttt!

Despite what Ingwe wrote,I would scope that rifle and kill stuff with it. grin


If you want all the "extra's" buy a used 7x57 and spice it up.


Yeah, that's a rifle, isn't it. And you can have it for only $5,999 (it's a .308 though).

One of the biggest issues I see in crafting something from an existing rifle (say a Cabela special or something like that) is the stock. I'm not sure if something like a Featherweight stock could possibly be reshaped to match the contour of the WRs in the pics. I guess that's a question for a stockmaker.

On the other hand, I have a Zastava M98 that could probably be redone with the existing wood and metal. It'd just be the Ingwe add-ons.


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Ingwe, that new WR (second one I posted) is about $50k, all set up as it is. I told my wife that I'm going to treat myself to one when I turn 65 and retire to become a Gentleman Farmer. Her comment was, "Are you actually going to shoot it?" Boy, talk about a conundrum!!


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Use the M98 and build what you want. See,wasn't that easy. wink


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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Use the M98 and build what you want. See,wasn't that easy. wink


Actually, that' sort of the direction I'm leaning. The stock is 14.5 inches, so there's plenty there to work with. And even though it was poorly finished from the factory, the grain is very nice. A stock maker could probably shave off the Monte Carlo (you can't really use the existing iron anyway since the comb is way too high), thin a lot of the existing wood, add all the other stuff, and there I'd be. Know a 'smith who could pull all that off?

Still jonesing for an XWR to hunt in the weather we're having right now, though.


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Originally Posted by ingwe
I think I must take the Ingwe Special back to Texas and slay the mighty axis stag with it�again grin


You need to bring it to Florida when you come. There are pigs just waiting to feel the sting of the 150gr NBT at 2500. Just pretend they're big ugly warthogs instead of big ugly feral pigs.


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Originally Posted by RevMike
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Use the M98 and build what you want. See,wasn't that easy. wink


Actually, that' sort of the direction I'm leaning. The stock is 14.5 inches, so there's plenty there to work with. And even though it was poorly finished from the factory, the grain is very nice. A stock maker could probably shave off the Monte Carlo (you can't really use the existing iron anyway since the comb is way too high), thin a lot of the existing wood, add all the other stuff, and there I'd be. Know a 'smith who could pull all that off?

Still jonesing for an XWR to hunt in the weather we're having right now, though.
I wished I did. wink

Get the XWR and live happy.


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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Get the XWR and live happy.


I probably will. smile

I got a note back from Cabela. The barrel is marked "Featherweight" so yep, it's a FWT contour.


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So did you place the order whistle

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Originally Posted by MagMarc
So did you place the order whistle


No, still trying to figure it out. If I owned an oil well I'd just buy a WR and be done with it.


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Order it and take up a "Love Offering" Sunday laugh

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Originally Posted by RevMike
Originally Posted by MagMarc
So did you place the order whistle


No, still trying to figure it out. If I owned an oil well I'd just buy a WR and be done with it.
From the sounds of it,you are still sitting on the fence. So my advice is wait,something will come along and it'll be what you want.


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Originally Posted by RevMike
Actually neither does this, and I expect it wouldn't be too hard to live with.

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That is indeed pretty Rev, but if someone pointed me at a Husqvarna 146 in 9.3 and told me that is the only rifle you are ever allowed to own, I would not grumble.


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Elk, you are exactly right. I'll wind up ordering the XWR, but will wait for the other. As you said, something will come along.


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Originally Posted by MagMarc
Order it and take up a "Love Offering" Sunday laugh


"Second Collection Sunday". Not sure he bishop would entirely approve.


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How about a car wash and hotdog sale

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I wasn't familiar with the Husqvarna so looked it up. Wow! A classic!


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Originally Posted by MagMarc
How about a car wash and hotdog sale


"Buy the Rector a Rifle Raffle": that might work.


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Now your getting with it. The Bishop couldn't say much if you made all the hotdogs and washed all of the cars wink

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I'm tired just thinking about it.


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Originally Posted by MagMarc
Keep you eyes on the prize Rev.


I've read that somewhere....


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Originally Posted by RevMike
Elk, you are exactly right. I'll wind up ordering the XWR, but will wait for the other. As you said, something will come along.
Patience my friend,you will be rewarded.

When the urge to do something rash,think "Elk is gonna chew on my rearend!" wink grin


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And I'm betting I can count in that! whistle


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Originally Posted by RevMike
Elk, you are exactly right. I'll wind up ordering the XWR, but will wait for the other. As you said, something will come along.

What will the chambering be in this XWR?

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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
That's what friends are for. wink


The best option keeps coming back to the Zastava and a good gunsmith. And thanks, friend!


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Originally Posted by MagMarc
What will the chambering be in this XWR?


Huh????? confused

The classic 7x57. Is there anything else? cool

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Its against the rules to have a synthetic 7x57...


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Yeah,a .270 Winchester.


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I know, but I need something for rough weather. If I'd have been in a stand this evening it would have been in a steady drizzle.


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Get anything else ( except a .270) in stainless synthetic�but not a 7x57...


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Originally Posted by ingwe
Get anything else ( except a .270) in stainless synthetic�but not a 7x57...


I guess I could always get a Swede.


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Get anything else ( except a .270) in stainless synthetic�but not a 7x57...


I guess I could always get a Swede.
.270 Winchester or get a BIG gun.... .30-06.


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Get anything else ( except a .270) in stainless synthetic�but not a 7x57...


I guess I could always get a Swede.
.270 Winchester or get a BIG gun.... .30-06.


The 06 wouldn't be a mistake

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Originally Posted by ingwe
Get anything else ( except a .270) in stainless synthetic�but not a 7x57...


Now wait just a cotton pickin' minute. You launch plastic tipped bullets through the Ingwe Special - something NONE of my 7x57s have ever seen - and you're balking at a ss/syn to shoot in the rain?


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Originally Posted by tex_n_cal


That is real nice!


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Originally Posted by MagMarc
Now just to confuse the good Rev lets throw the 280 in the mix smile



I always thought that would be the ticket in either a 742/7400 or BAR.


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My gosh,you get a .280,might as well turn in your man-card Rev.


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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
My gosh,you get a .280,might as well turn in your man-card Rev.


Now did I say I was going to get one? No. What I said is, I think that'd be the ticket in an autoloader. But I ain't gettin' one of those either.


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Originally Posted by RevMike
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And BTW�..quit showing pics of that rifle�I think I soiled myself again�. blush


I thought this was the one that gave you incontinence issues.

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That one makes me want! Just gorgeous, and I prefer the black recoil pad with the dark wood to the sometimes seen red ones.

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Originally Posted by OceanBlue
That one makes me want! Just gorgeous, and I prefer the black recoil pad with the dark wood to the sometimes seen red ones.


That one starts at 16,500 pounds sterling - for the rifle alone, not with any of the options you see. I priced it the other day as I'd like to have it: US dollar equivalent - $36,089.16, not including the case or glass. Drop in the bucket!!


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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Just keepin' you on the good side. wink


I appreciate that!


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Just keepin' you on the good side. wink


I appreciate that!


270 and have a Man's rifle is still where this needs to go whistle

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I expect it'll stay right where it is: 7x57, I spite of Ingwe's objections.


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How about a 9.3x62? Then you could be with the "cool" kids. wink


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Hey Ingwe, I popped a little boar this evening. About 90 pounds or so. I'm still in camp, but will post on "Corn Eaters" thread. Wait till you see. By the way, buy a Therma-Cell before you come. First time I've used it. It works.


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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
How about a 9.3x62? Then you could be with the "cool" kids. wink


Too much gun for my type of hunting.


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Then you should get a 7x57 then. smirk


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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Then you should get a 7x57 then. smirk


That's the plan!! cool


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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Then you should get a 7x57 then. smirk


Need something handy too.


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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Glad I could help. grin laugh


Always appreciated.


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Originally Posted by RevMike
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How about a 9.3x62? Then you could be with the "cool" kids. wink


Too much gun for my type of hunting.


Then try one of these Rev, 1950 Brno model 21 in 7x64 Brenneke...AND they were made in 7x57!

If that doesn't convert you to the dark side nothing will.

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That's got "boar" written all over it!!


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Looked real close at the pics and so far have not seen "boar" anywhere. smile


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Probably meant "bore".


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The 7x57 version similar to JStuart's. No plastic bullets used in this one.

Not sure how Ingwe is going to get that crap out of his barrel.... smile

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Ingwe told me I was a heretic for running plastic tipped bullets in a 7x57, what changed??????

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Got the little boar all tidied up and in the freezer. Details tomorrow on the other thread. But the old 94 proved two things to me this evening: a compact rifle is the ticket in my environment and my eyes aren't as good as they used to be. Still one shot, DRT, but still not quite what I would have liked. Back to Ruger No 1 with 1.5-4? Could be...


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Originally Posted by MagMarc
Ingwe told me I was a heretic for running plastic tipped bullets in a 7x57, what changed??????


He tried it, that's what!!


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I shot my Axis with a plastic tipped bullet�..

Oh the humanity cry

Its about time!

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Rev, as I recall my 1A has a VXII 4x36 on it. It seemed to have enough relief to work alright without extensions etc.

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Originally Posted by MagMarc
Peep?


Williams FP with firesight. Love it and the front sight glows in low light. The problem is the pigs don't glow in low light!!



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Originally Posted by 65X54
Rev, as I recall my 1A has a VXII 4x36 on it. It seemed to have enough relief to work alright without extensions etc.


If that's the direction I go I'll put an illuminated German 4 in a 1-4 or thereabouts on it. What do you think?


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While I've not tried anything that lights up it would probably work well for what you are doing.

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Originally Posted by 65X54
While I've not tried anything that lights up it would probably work well for what you are doing.


I have illuminated glass on two of three 7x57s. I like them, but more than anything I just need the light gathering capabilities of a scope in dim light and shadows.


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The light gathering can be a big one here when close to final time. Especially with a heavy cloud cover and in the river bottom brush. Gets pretty darned dark quick.
With either the 4 or 6 power vxII's I've never had to pass a reasonable shot though.

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GW says our shots on pigs always come right a o-dark thirty. That's about right. Either that or, as you say, when it's overcast and shadows. I generally just stay on the lowest setting and I'm fine. Of course it's rare that a shot is over about 60 yards.


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The thing about No.1's will be getting glass with enough eye relief as some scopes will just not move to the rear far enough. I can tolerate a little scope crawling but there is a limit. You will need to know what yours is when picking out the glass.

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That might not be much of an issue since I'm comfortable with a LOP of about 14.25 or 14.50. A LOP of 13.75 is going to put me right on the glass, no problem.


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Just something to be aware of with the No.1's. I like em a lot but scope mounting can be an issue.

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Originally Posted by 65X54
Just something to be aware of with the No.1's. I like em a lot but scope mounting can be an issue.


I appreciate the heads-up.


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I have two of the Cabelas 7x57 Supergrades.

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How do they shoot?


Have not had a chance to take them to the range yet. Just recently scoped them. Getting ready to work up loads for them and a couple other new rifles.

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I have two of the Cabelas 7x57 Supergrades.

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Nice wood, especially on the bottom one.


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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Featherweight 7x57 with a Leupold 2.5x and Talley lightweights.

Hint hint.


You mean something like this?

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Originally Posted by elkhunternm
Yeah! blush


Wouldn't you think a fellow would be content with what he has? (rhetorical question!)


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Y'all are making me want one!


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Y'all are making me want one!



Rev, just give it up and bite the long parallel sided bullet!


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I can't believe folks shoot a 7x57 that isn't in a rolling block.

What is the world coming to?

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Originally Posted by RWE
I can't believe folks shoot a 7x57 that isn't in a rolling block.

What is the world coming to?


Kids today.... shocked


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I can't believe folks shoot a 7x57 that isn't in a rolling block.

What is the world coming to?



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Y'all are making me want one!



Rev, just give it up and bite the long parallel sided bullet!


Think I could turn one into an Ingwe Special? Who would do the work on something as unique as that?

By the way, I shot another of your Florida pigs last evening. Go over to the Corbett thread and look. Pretty messy down here right now.


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I just saw it. Leave a couple for me! I need a good 'eater' and some big ass gnarly looking one...


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Originally Posted by ingwe
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I can't believe folks shoot a 7x57 that isn't in a rolling block.

What is the world coming to?



I Fart in your general direction!

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Now stay out of this thread, or I shall be forced to taunt you again! laugh
I don't see a pic "fart"-bah.


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Originally Posted by ingwe
I just saw it. Leave a couple for me! I need a good 'eater' and some big ass gnarly looking one...


No chance of that. The only state that has more pigs than Florida is Texas. There are plenty here. As for the gnarly ones; they're mostly nocturnal. That's how they live long enough to get big and gnarly. The "eaters" generally come out during some level of shooting and light...and don't.


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I know you like the 7MM mauser. However, you live in the same state as Gulf Breeze Arms and they have a Cooper in 270 Winchester with English Walnut that beats the Winchester Cabelas to hell. That is the gun that I would be bluechipping for.

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Oooh...that would make Jack O'Connor drool if he were here. He'd no doubt slap a Weaver K4 on it and go after Stone Sheep.

It may be an optical illusion but to me the Cooper pistol grips and forends look a little fat.

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Wow, very nice. Wonder what Cooper would charge to screw a 7x57 onto the action? grin

Seriously, that's really nice.


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I gotta believe ingwe was sodomized by a .270 when he was young, for him to have such an irrational dislike for the cartridge.

I also believe he was tended to by some effeminate European person who steered him towards that decrepit old 7x57.


That's the only explanation that makes sense.


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I fart in your general direction too!


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Knew it,Ingwe is full of hot air. wink


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Originally Posted by ingwe
The Cabelas rifle would be just right��.. grin



Other than the fact it says "Cabela's" on the floor plate. Now maybe if it said "Ingwe Special" on the floor plate, it would have a certain amount of cool factor. The guys in Portugal would probably miss spell Ingwe, but that's besides the point...


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I think those were made before Portugal. Besides it wouldn't be difficult to exchange the floorplate for steel. But you are right: they could not spell Ingwe. As a matter of fact there is no voice recognition software on the face of the earth that recognizes that name. Trust me on that one. It usually comes out igloo.


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Try Matabele software �.


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Try Matabele software �.


Can I load it on my phone? Is it free? Is it really worth it just for one word? I expect the answer to all three is no.


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Originally Posted by RevMike
I think those were made before Portugal. Besides it wouldn't be difficult to exchange the floorplate for steel. But you are right: they could not spell Ingwe. As a matter of fact there is no voice recognition software on the face of the earth that recognizes that name. Trust me on that one. It usually comes out igloo.


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