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Been looking at getting a new rifle for hunting in general but mainly for deer. I have already purchased a 3-10X50 Meostar for the new setup. Now I have completely confused myself with what rifle to mount it on. Where I live I do not get the opportunity to hold a lot of different brands and models so it will have to be an ordered in rifle more than likely. I was dead set on a Kimber Montana in 7-08 until I read all the accuracy horror stories. I would hate to chance the funds on a rifle that has a history of accuracy issues. If those are a thing of the past then I would lean that route. Really would like to keep the cost around $1k give or take a few hundred and rather have a stainless/synthetic over wood but either is fine. Any suggestions are appreciated.

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My choice would be a Winchester M 70 Ultimate Shadow in either .30-06 or .270.


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Having done a Kimber and a Weatherby, I think I'd look hard at a Sako M85 Finnlight


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Don't be afraid of the Kimber. A little tinkering (if needed) will make them shoot and you will have one of the best handling, best feeling rifles available.

PS. I have had but one rifle in the last 10 years that needed no tinkering; a Cooper 7mm-08. But, they are a little more than you said you wanted to spend.

Cooper Excaliber stainless 7mm-08. I know, just a three shot group, but it does it over, and over, and over. This is with 140 gr. Partitions over RL-15.



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Deer hunting is an awfully broad description of the hunting you intend to do and says nothing about the terrain. Size of deer (100lb or 250 lb) and type of hunting (stand in the woods or hiking above timberline) also would help in getting recommendations that would fit your situation.


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Tikka T3 in 300wsm should be great medicine on any deer in any terrain.

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I have a Montana 7mm-08. It shoots very well but is more difficult to shoot well than my heavier rifles. It takes better technique and better concentration. If you want light right at $1000, there is no equal to the Montana.

If you want a good rifle still fairly light, the Tikka Superlight sold at Sportsman's Warehouse and Cabelas's is a very good choice.

If you want a good rifle in moderate weight, a model 70 Winchester is a find choice. I would say Rem 700 too but I would rather have an older one than a new one.

If you want a decent rifle at a great price the Ruger American is tops IMHO.

If I wanted assurance of accuracy in the least weight I would save a little more and get the Cooper Excalibur.

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Originally Posted by LoneWati
Tikka T3 in 300wsm should be great medicine on any deer in any terrain.


Why in the world do you need a 300 wsm to kill a deer?

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mk, I am a long time Rem. fan.. But as someone said, I would prefer older 700's. I agree with elkhuntermn. I bought my first model 70 in many years.. After shooting it, I don't see how you could go wrong.. The ONLY thing I have against is the trigger adjustment.. But the fit, finish, and accuracy of the rifle left nothing to be desired.. Go 7mm-08 if your heart is set on it, but again, like elk, I would go 30-06 or .270. If I were buying this afternoon, it would be a .270.. I have all three and killed game with all three. Second would be the 06, and a distant third the 08.


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If I were going to buy a new factory sporter in the price range you mentioned, I'd be looking very hard at the Winchester M70 EW in .308.

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What would a Winchester 70 Featherweight Compact in McMillan Edge weigh? I'm thinking that it would come in under six pounds and all told, run about $1,200 or so.

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Originally Posted by Blacktailer
Deer hunting is an awfully broad description of the hunting you intend to do and says nothing about the terrain. Size of deer (100lb or 250 lb) and type of hunting (stand in the woods or hiking above timberline) also would help in getting recommendations that would fit your situation.


Average size of deer runs between 165-230lbs. Terrain is both thick and open. This will be a stand rifle but need to be suited for the stalk into the stand as well. A walk up to or over a mile with a treestand and gear on your back weighing close to 30lbs is normal. Most hikes are on average 45min -1hr. Vegetation and terrain is very diverse. One minute you are on flat ground next can be barely making it up the side of a steep ridge. Visible distances can go from not seeing more than 10yds to wide open up to 300yds. If I know the stand setup is relatively thick and the shots are known to be close I carry my brush rifle which is a Rem. 760 in 30-06.

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Originally Posted by mkirk
Where I live I do not get the opportunity to hold a lot of different brands and models so it will have to be an ordered in rifle more than likely.
I have been pondering a new Howa Stainless Alpine model mountain rifle, they can be ordered with a Bansner stock installed and a 20" #1 contour barrel available in 7mm/08 or .308 Win..

Also would like to have a new Tikka Stainless Camo rifle.

I trust both of these brands for consistent quality.

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Originally Posted by mkirk
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Deer hunting is an awfully broad description of the hunting you intend to do and says nothing about the terrain. Size of deer (100lb or 250 lb) and type of hunting (stand in the woods or hiking above timberline) also would help in getting recommendations that would fit your situation.


Average size of deer runs between 165-230lbs. Terrain is both thick and open. This will be a stand rifle but need to be suited for the stalk into the stand as well. A walk up to or over a mile with a treestand and gear on your back weighing close to 30lbs is normal. Most hikes are on average 45min -1hr. Vegetation and terrain is very diverse. One minute you are on flat ground next can be barely making it up the side of a steep ridge. Visible distances can go from not seeing more than 10yds to wide open up to 300yds. If I know the stand setup is relatively thick and the shots are known to be close I carry my brush rifle which is a Rem. 760 in 30-06.

Just my opinion so take it for what it's worth. Given your criteria, I would favor staying with 308 and above for that size deer although you could certainly go smaller and I'm sure there will be a hue and cry about shooting deer with tiny bullets but that is just not me. Since you already have an -06 that would be my first choice.
Next would be rifles and again just my $.02 but I favor medium to lightweight bolt action rifles especially when you are packing a lot of stuff so about 8 lbs all up is my limit including sling, scope, mounts, and full mag. The M70 FWT is about as heavy as I would consider and I have one of the newer ones and the fit and finish are very nice. Also have a Kimber and they may need a bit of tweaking but don't be afraid of them.
Don't have any experience with Tikka but they are well regarded. Wouldn't be afraid to look at a used M700 or other brands that you could pick up inexpensively and customize and still stay within your budget.


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Originally Posted by mkirk
Been looking at getting a new rifle for hunting in general but mainly for deer. I have already purchased a 3-10X50 Meostar for the new setup. Now I have completely confused myself with what rifle to mount it on. Where I live I do not get the opportunity to hold a lot of different brands and models so it will have to be an ordered in rifle more than likely. I was dead set on a Kimber Montana in 7-08 until I read all the accuracy horror stories. I would hate to chance the funds on a rifle that has a history of accuracy issues. If those are a thing of the past then I would lean that route. Really would like to keep the cost around $1k give or take a few hundred and rather have a stainless/synthetic over wood but either is fine. Any suggestions are appreciated.


I was in the same boat as you this past weekend. I really wanted a Kimber Montana in 7mm-08 but was worried about some of the poor accuracy reports I had read. I talked to a few folks on here that have overcome those issues and I'm not worried about the issues anymore. So I ordered one yesterday. The rifle does feel and handle well! Hope it gets here by Friday.

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Originally Posted by Hondo64d
If I were going to buy a new factory sporter in the price range you mentioned, I'd be looking very hard at the Winchester M70 EW in .308.

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I can't come up with an argument against that one.


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Originally Posted by mkirk
If I know the stand setup is relatively thick and the shots are known to be close I carry my brush rifle which is a Rem. 760 in 30-06.


That "brush rifle" is good to your distance of 300 yards +.
But I do understand the "need" for additional guns.


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everyone has ideas, there are a lot of fine rifles. i have a savage american classic in 308...kimbers are also great rifles

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