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If I had some fine Czech glass waiting for a home...I'd get a fine Czech rifle... ![[Linked Image]](http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/k579/CowboyTimmy/DSC08999_zpsd08ce794.jpg) Make sure you don't overlook the CZ-550...damn fine, extremely accurate rifles.
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Personally I have owned a few kimbers and will never pay that much for a gun that patterns like a shotgun.
Not a single one shot well---at all!
My choices based on accuracy would be WBY vanguard, Sako, Tikka, Savage, and CZ 550.
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Deer hunting is an awfully broad description of the hunting you intend to do and says nothing about the terrain. Size of deer (100lb or 250 lb) and type of hunting (stand in the woods or hiking above timberline) also would help in getting recommendations that would fit your situation. Average size of deer runs between 165-230lbs. Terrain is both thick and open. This will be a stand rifle but need to be suited for the stalk into the stand as well. A walk up to or over a mile with a treestand and gear on your back weighing close to 30lbs is normal. Most hikes are on average 45min -1hr. Vegetation and terrain is very diverse. One minute you are on flat ground next can be barely making it up the side of a steep ridge. Visible distances can go from not seeing more than 10yds to wide open up to 300yds. If I know the stand setup is relatively thick and the shots are known to be close I carry my brush rifle which is a Rem. 760 in 30-06. Up the top end weights to 300+ pounds and this takes in a lot of whitetail country I have hunted from New Brunswick and New England to Alberta. In truth it takes in a lot of mule deer country too. Lots of cartridges work and I have used the 270, 280, 7x57, 7/08, 30/06 and some magnum chamberings as well. I have yet to be anywhere that a 270 or 280 with a 22" barrel weighing about 7-7 1/2 pounds scoped was a handicap in any way.I have killed with anything along these lines that I have carried and at distances from 30 feet to a bit over 400 yards. Mostly I have used a 270 Winchester for all this stuff.
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The 280 Remington is overbore.
The 7 Rem Mag is over bore.
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I just picked up a kimber montana in 7mm08 and this group is from my first work up load (3 shots at 50 yds). It wouldn't group better than two or three inches until after the SAS treatment. Great guns but may take a little work. I handled a Tikka SuperLite in 7mm08 and it was pretty nice. It would be a better choice if you still want to use the 50mm scope IMO. ![[Linked Image]](http://i215.photobucket.com/albums/cc79/IDuplander/IMG_0718_zps0139fc53.jpg)
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If my Montanas shot like that I would have kept them.
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Did you tune them at all?
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Lots of old stuff out there that will get it done.
Should have bought the sako in the classifieds yesterday for 750
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I handled a Tikka SuperLite in 7mm08 and it was pretty nice. It would be a better choice if you still want to use the 50mm scope IMO.
Where did you find a a Superlite in 7mm-08? P
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pharmseller,
I was mistaken, the 708 was a T3 lite and a 223 1:8 that I was interested in was the super lite. SW Idaho Sportsman's WH.
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You had me counting my pennies there for a minute!
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A .270 Win has always seemed to me to be an excellent choice and hard to beat for a dedicated deer rifle.
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A good .30-06 is a 99% solution.
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Is that 'mauser' M12 just a push feed?  Is it the one on the left? ![[Linked Image]](http://www.rifleshootermag.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/10/files/mauser-m12-review/mauser_m12_2.jpg)
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Don�your 'stupid' is showing�.
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Don�your 'stupid' is showing�. for your future use: ![[Linked Image]](http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n23/jlcpls/stupiditburns.jpg)
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Might be why he got fired from Cabela's.
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lawd ... the dreaded so-called QUOTE-UNQUOTE "MAUSER"
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Cabela's is one of those places were there are only two ways to get fired. A) Get caught stealing. B) Get into a fight with a customer.
Yet somehow 99 managed another way. Amazing
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Since they can't answer the question of "Is that M12 just another push feed?" It's obvious that's all it is. It looks like a poor value at $1500 and an insult to the original Mauser design.
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Pawl Mauser would be shaking his fist at the sky. "why, God?? WHY???"
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