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geez Kevin, exactly what position, on ANYTHING, is not 'politically motivated'?

Who say's that there is a "war" on police???

Rick Collins does.




One pair of nutjobs from Occupy Wall Street go full out Bill Ayres / Weatherman and kill 2 cops and all of a sudden the far RIGHT has a running war on cops.

Who knew?

Well, now see, we've got to get everybody used to the idea that the standard white middle aged 2nd Amendment supporter is up to no good...or extremely and tragically misguided at best. And these sorts of essays are a good way of doing it. You see, it isn't excessive and ever more intrusive government. It isn't a reaction against this government and its most visible representatives...cops. No, it is these idiotic and insane, or at least dangerously misguided, second amendment supporters who think cops are out to get them. I mean, we just can't have these guys running around with guns can we? Someone is going to get hurt and it might be one of these precious defenders of liberty who we call cops.

Well if you view the entire world through political glasses (and I once did) that's how you would see things.

While you make valid points, there are valid points to be made also in criticism of growing trends within the police culture, such as militarization in training, equipment, and attitude towards the public.

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I worked along side cops for just over a decade an a half in a lot of weird situations. Most cops have infinite patience, aren't looking to intimidate people, and just want to go home at the end of their shift.

Some are a bit less patient, and a little more authoritarian.

Then there is the very small minority who are on serious power trips. They are a very small minority, but you can bet your arse that most departments have them. THEY are the one's we worry about.

I wouldn't want a society without law enforcement. But the militarization of law enforcement and the trend of no knock raids (many of which have gone horribly wrong) REALLY concerns me.

What I learned in the field was, the job of a cop sucks like very few jobs I can think of. I thought I wanted to be a cop; until I saw first hand on a daily basis what the job entailed. After that, I'd rather flip burgers than be a cop. It's a rough job, where you take huge heaping mounds of chit every damn day, NEVER get any sort of thanks, and then the final kick in the nutz is the sparse paycheck they reward you with at the end of the month. Just society's way of saying...thanks for all you do; we hate you.

to do otherwise is to go through life deluded. Which you evidently do.

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That has become one of the major points of contention between the police and the public. The political office holders are out of control and the public views the police as the gestapo arm of those leaders. My father was a police officer of over 35 years and my son-in-law has been a state trooper for over 15 years. I am as pro police as anyone I know but I fear what the political hacks are doing to alienate the public and cause them to see the police as the enemy. Increasingly the police have become more and more like a military force, an offensive group with sophisticated weapons. Police are given a tremendous amount of latitude in enforcing the law and if they fail to use moral discretion based on the freedoms and precepts of the constitution more and more of the public will turn on them. Iraqi citizens who were found to be police in those areas that the rebels have taken over found out what happens when the "other side" takes over. I pray that will never happen in our nation but it's headed that way.

Yes, and they even have the crass audacity to publicly admit to their agenda against we Americans and our rights:

Yep, he actually said that. I saw the video.

I grew up with a bunch of city cops in the 50's and 60's on the downtown Los Angeles beat. Not all, but most were a bunch of rowdy drunks with a hobby of picking up blacks and homeless people on the streets, taking them up into an old strip hotel room and just beating the [bleep] out of them until they were senseless and then dumping them back out on the streets...

Worked with a bunch of them throughout the 60's and 70's that bragged about their bust and planting evidence and their late night exploits with those out on the streets.

It is still all going on, hell just a few years ago, in my city 10 or 12 of them including the night watch commanders were busted hanging out at a strip club while on duty and bringing prostitutes back to both the station and their union hall down the street...

Just a couple years ago, LA PD was busted picking up detaining the homeless and then dropping them off in other city's where they had no knowledge of their surroundings or area!

I've personally witnessed them planting evidence and lying in court.

Use to live next door to a retired cop from Kentucky that bragged how back in the 50's he and his partner use to beat the [bleep] out of blacks in the rural farmland and drop them into sink-holes, and even lynching a couple...

But never any of these guy's ever mentioned having beat the [bleep] out of women, or shooting dogs just for the hell of it!


And yes, I've known quite a few cops that were just the opposite and went through their entire carrears without ever shooting anyone, or having fired at anyone on the job!

Another words I've known enough of them to not trust any of them as far as I can spit!

And I think the new breed is far worse than the old timers!


Phil

Beats me. I guess we gotta start paying better attention. I understand there is a war on women too.

If you call 911 today for a Burglary of your home , you have a better chance of getting arrested or shot that the Burglar. As far as the cause of deaths of cops i would say more are killed in traffic accidents or die from heart attack from eating to much junk food . There is a war on Traditional Marriage also

You obviously have no business in some of these discussions.

Excellent article! Anyone who thinks any police officer or agency does something wrong is either a gang banger or neo-nazi outright or a supporter of those groups.

Yep, if civilians don't like a law they should lobby for an exemption like police do. Barring that, they should become friends with officers however they have to so either they don't get pinched in the first place or at least stand a better chance of getting the ticket or charges negated.

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