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another first for America. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jul/17/air-force-command-nominee-is-1st-woman-non-pilot/

the first time a woman, and a NON PILOT is appointed theater commander for the AF.

just an instant reaction. bet she like's pussy.

At least the Navy their four starette in the relatively harmless position of Vice Chief. This one actually has her hand on the trigger...

evidently all that counts is 'diversity'.

You're gonna make me remove my USAF window sticker if you keep this chit up!

Mediocrity is the hallmark of this administration.

Another if it can be screwed up Obama can find a way moment.

Hey guys ... here's her bio. Read up a bit first, then comment.

http://www.af.mil/AboutUs/Biographi.../lieutenant-general-lori-j-robinson.aspx

I did before I posted. Side-saddle non-combatant.. 900 hours? Seriously???

FLIGHT INFORMATION
Rating: Senior Air Battle Manager (WTF is that?)
Flight hours: More than 900
Aircraft: E-3B/C and E-8C

Pretty impressive history. Wonder how many of the old, fat, bald, beer-swizzling armchair military experts on this board have any such bio's at all.

Jorge, everything you ever wanted to know about ABM.

"Air battle manager has been a rated career field (Air Force Specialty Code 13BX) since October 1, 1999. This means that ABMs are career aviators who receive flight pay and must actively fly a certain number of months (called gate months) to maintain their rating. As a result, all active duty ABMs and those assigned to the Air Force Reserve unit at Tinker AFB, OK are assigned to flying duties after completion of undergraduate training. In the past a small number of graduates were initially assigned to ground assignments in the control and reporting centers (CRCs). This practice was temporarily ceased in 2004 but now occurs based on student merit and assignment availability. ABMs serving in the Air National Guard are typically assigned to a CRC unit, an air defense sector, or an air operations center (AOC). ABMs do receive flight pay and earn rated aviator wings though, at one time, were not awarded them at the completion of UABMT. Under the old system, only ABMs who had completed follow-on training for the E-3 or E-8 were awarded wings to wear on their uniforms. As of May 2010, a new training syllabus at Tyndall AFB allows ABMs to receive their wings at the conclusion of UABMT, finally bringing them in line with pilots and navigators. As of December 31, 2010, the Air Force Personnel Center reported that there are currently 1,434 ABMs serving on active duty."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_battle_manager

I would take the fat bear drinker over the bio any day.

It appears that her flight hours are as Fighter Controller and maybe mgr of F. C's other than that it is all on the ground and mostly class , management and statistics. I would guess it is theory and not practical. Just my take on it. Yes I do have experience on various interceptors as well as ground school instructor and time in air with students.
Cheers NC

Here is the sort of biography the person filling this position should have:

http://militaryhistory.about.com/od/airforce/p/Vietnam-War-Brigadier-General-Robin-Olds.htm

Olds! Now you're talking!

If she is going to need experienced fighter pilots to tell her what to do, then you don't need her. That is just being a middle man.

I noticed Gen. Olds did not attend the War College until 20 years after he began his career. The first 20 was basically frontline operational flying. Not so for Miss Diversity. Virtually her entire career has been in a classroom. This is a travesty to the deserving and better prepared operational pilots who were passed over for Miss Diversity. Of course, it is not her fault, and I thank her for her service.

I read. She is entirely mediocre. What she has going for her is that she is a woman and prolly a Democrat too. That's it.

Jordan

Well now, Robin Olds was some kind of fighter pilot ... hero class! But, wasn't qualified to be the Commander in Chief of Pacific Air Forces. It's a four star billet and Robin only had one. The 4-star has many Robin Olds types working for him/her that advise the Commander, as well as execute on the battlefield. That four star will be no where near the point of execution, never has.

In my days of service I obeyed the orders of the officers appointed over me and provided the most sound advice as my training and experience allowed. Hopefully the officers in PACAF will afford her the same loyalty and courtesy. It's how it has been since our beginning.

Symbolism over substance, what do you expect from a community organizer who is now potus.

gawd help us.