Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Savage Collectors OT But Interesting Walmart & Savage

OK , I'm kinda loath to admit it but about a month ago I bought one of those ugly azz Savage 42s at Walmart.
It was on clearance for pennies on the dollar.
It's still in the box , unused & unfired.
Today I take it out & looking it over I notice that the cheap , plastic rear sight is damaged.
I go to the Savage website & no joy finding a replacement.
I call Savage , told them serial # , state I live in , last name & first name. Then the Savage guy says "Do you still live at (insert my address here)"

So Savage Arms knows where I live without me ever telling them.

I guess maybe Walmart gave Savage my address.

The Savage guy said "I'll get that part right out to you" , didn't ask for a credit card number or anything else.

Maybe when Walmart sells a firearm they send warranty info to the manufacturer ?


Mike

Nah, just Big Brother at work. Privacy?? Hah!

I've been on "THE LIST" for a long time , it don't bother me.



Mike

Maybe they were using caller ID?

I can't believe Walmart would bother sending buyer information to the gun mfr's, there's no point to it.

You sure you were never on a Savage mailing list? Ever order a spare part or accessory from them? Send in a warranty?

I think that's part of your landline phone number info..public domain info, even if your number is unlisted, so he was just looking at caller ID...don't worry, Big Brother is only watching for terrorists, to keep us safe.

He didn't ask me any questions as to WHY I was looking for a sight , just said "I'll get that part right out to you".

I don't recall ever having had any direct interactions with Savage before.

If it was Caller ID then it's more sophisticated than the Caller ID that I have

Mike

Hmmmmmmmm - Who knows what evil lurks.....

The Shadow, and NSA.

At least Walmart still sells firearms where you live. Be thankful they still sell anything made in the states. A buck for Walmart is a buck for China!

Might as well put money in an envelope, address it "China", and throw a stamp on it.

I heard that when you call a toll free number they have caller id and your number, name and add. appear on the screen. Did you get that part yet? Savage service is usually pretty good. Mel

Walmart parking lots are always packed full of American shoppers. I don't see any chains advertising "Buy USA, pay 2x, keep us fat, happy and lazy"

Welcome to our new world economy.

The Roman Empire ruled the world for 500 years. Nothing last forever.

China is the next world supper power. They are buying up our dollars, lending us cash money and investing in our infrastructure at a truly alarming rate.

They are hungry, ambitious and motivated, like we were...100 years ago....

Sorry, OT but I've got to correct your statement. The Roman Empire was founded circa 500 BC and lasted in one form or another until the fall of Byzantium, the capital of the "Eastern Empire" in 1453 AD. That's just a little shy of 2000 years and while after the fall of Rome and the Western Empire they may have no longer "ruled the world" for quite a while after that the "Eastern Empire" continued to rule a good part of it.

Really?

OK:

Jesus Christ: I'm not going to split hairs and debate the dates of it's existence with when it "Ruled the World".

Point being:

That great civilization and culture eventually succumbed to political corruption, decline of infrastructure , unemployment, debt, decline of moral values, separation of wealth, decline of middle class, etc., etc., etc. Human history has seen this movie before and it always ends the same...

So what the hell does any of this have to do with Walmart and Savage?

Sorry Mike...

I just plucked the sight out of the mailbox , so less than a week.


Mike

It's all done with magic, Mike.

The only way to avoid it is to move to Alaska or someplace like that and live off the grid, and who wants to live like that? Besides, it wouldn't be long before a reality TV show producer would have a camera stuck up your butt.

I live like that Gnoahhh. you have an open invitation to come out and spend some time here. bet you would like it. pitch dark at night and no sirens every 10 minutes.

Really? Why do you think they are selling so much stuff made in China? It's not because they want to prop up China, it's because people don't want to spend more for something made in the USA. If people put their money where their mouth is and only bought stuff made in the USA that is what wal mart would sell. They don't care where the product is made as long as it sells. What would you do if you were them; have shelves full of USA made stuff that doesn't sell because of the price or have 30 turns per year on products made where it can be made cheaper so people actually buy it? If you say the former you're either lying or an idiot!

And the OP bought a Savage rifle made in the USA so the money all stays in the USA. And the rifle is a piece of $hit (sorry OP) but it's a cheap Savage that looks like crap with poor workmanship. Imagine what kind of rifle you could have made in China for the same money?

I think the problem lies with corporations choosing Chinese products to sell, not the American people choosing them to buy.

I disagree. If people wouldn't buy Chinese products and only bought USA product (which would cost more) the stores would stop stocking Chinese product. They sell what the people want.

You're talking to a guy that just spent all day looking for American made boots to buy and ended up buying Chinese hikers at 6pm because the kids needed dinner.

If its Walmart bashing, then its pretty tough to give a damn about a company (the largest public corporation in the world) who tell their people to go on the public dole to for their health benefits. Let's give a big HuRah for the Waltons, who occupy about three slots on the most richest people list!

Interesting. You rank right up there with the teacher's unions which hate Walmart but can't seem to teach our children much other than to feel good about themselves. We're becoming a third world nation as far as education goes and you're complaining that somebody is making a buck. Something is wrong when substandard education is ok but capitalism is wrong. People buy what they want. The Edsel proved that.

Right on, brother...........

There aren't many part time employees anywhere that get health insurance without paying a large % of it. If they included health care for their part timers their prices would go up which would mean people would start shopping elsewhere.

My friend's wife has worked at WM for 20 years. The insurance they offer is very good and reasonably priced according to him. They chose WM insurance over the insurance the Teamsters offered him.

Please don't put words in my mouth and then change the argument. They are a big company that could do better for their employees. I never thought supporting the American worker would ever be unpopular.

PS - we are also becoming a third world country as far as employment is concerned and I don't envy younger generations.

Maybe we ought to stick on track and avoid the subject of politics as we all have our own opinions and thankfully the right to have them.

It isn't with us, the thinking consumer.

It's a foreign concept with the corporations that look ONLY at the bottom dollar. Pun intended.

I'm surprised how many have drunk the koolaid and are content with the mantra "Corporations sell what Americans want". No, they sell what makes them the highest profit margin. They don't care what real Americans want, they care about their stocks and trust funds.

I'm not against capitalism, I'm against capitalism w/o morality or patriotism. I can't stand what corporations are doing to our economy, all in the name of profits for at few at the top, America be damned. If you see it otherwise, you need to open your eyes to the reality of where America's jobs went and why.

Might want to take a look at the charges on your 30 year mortgage too while you're at it. The bankers have turned your little $115,000 cottage into a $300,000 dream house.

Fireball

I've bought Red Wings for almost 20 years. They have cheap import boots and higher up the ladder there are American made ones I believe. I buy the better ones because I want something that might last a year and I wear a 14 A or B width. Usually the eyelets wear through until the laces start getting cut and then it's new eyelets and sometimes new out soles when they wear through. When I was landscaper I usually got a summer out of the outsoles on their high end boot. I did a search on the Red Wing website and they have dealers in Oregon, however I don't know how close they are to you.

I wonder how many Union trust funds and other investment portfolios contain Walmart Stock? As for as I can see NO ONE yet is forcing anyone to buy or not to buy from Walmart...that may be coming as we continue to spiral out of control as a capitalistic Republic. Does the number "666" sound familiar?

Greed plays a part too. I bet the Waltons could spring for cross the board health care for their employees out of their own pockets, and still have a billion or two left over for their fun and games- and it's not just them. Add to that the lemming-like traits of the poorly educated/apathetic buying public and you have a recipe for economic disaster. Don't even get me started on the fact that we no longer are a manufacturing based economy (where wealth is based upon adding value to raw materials) but rather a service/consumer based economy hell-bent on creating wealth out of thin air. I fear (but sincerely hope not) that it's a flimsy house of cards we live in. I'm old enough that I probably won't be around to witness the fall of the Empire, but I'm saddened to know that the kids in my family will have to deal with it.

There's a reason why previous generations were taught ancient history- so as to take heed from the mistakes of the past. Basic human nature hasn't really changed much in 2000 years. Grab any kid on the street today and ask him about the Roman Bread-and-Circuses and he'll look at you like you have two heads. It doesn't take a genius to see that the same forces that destroyed the mightiest empire in the ancient world are wrecking ours today- apathy, complacency, and morally corrupt government, yet the issue isn't addressed in the public school system to any meaningful degree.


Yikes! I didn't mean to rant when I opened my big mouth! Oh well...

I wonder where WM employees would be working if WM wasn't here. Relatively unskilled people. My guess is many of them would be working for other department stores or other small businesses, for the most part none of them offer health care either.

Walmart offers health care guys. My son was a cashier there and had to make a choice whether to take it or stay on ours. It may not be GREAT health care, but they offer it to full time employees.

You can't teach those that don't want to learn.

Learning is way much more than a simple consensus of thought. This is a great country gentlemen, but I really don't think Walmart represents what makes us shine the brightest. I obviously don't agree with everything that's been said in this thread, but I do appreciate the spirit it took for all to speak their minds and our constitutional right to do so. And that is one of the things that does make us great. The next time I will be sure to stick to the subject of Savage and Savage only.

While I have to admit that I stray from topic from time to time I find your intention admirable. Do your best to keep from straying and I'll do mine. Aside, we don't have to agree but we can agree to disagree.

well played gentlemen...just glad and proud to live here with some common sense folk like you all