Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire I got an email from Hornady today

Asking us to send letters to lawmakers stoping the HSUS petition to ban traditional hunting bullets on all Federal land. LINK

I think we need a petition to ban HSUS on ALL land
Evidently they've forgotten it was hunters and shooters who PAID for much of that land

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This could get interesting.

We'll see how many hypocrites we have here now, and some that actually got what a few members have been trying to tell them...

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Eventually "they" are going to ban lead ammo. It's going to happen.

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Mr. Binn.
Think we could make this a "Sticky" for a while.

Thank you

Sadly I think you're right.

So, someday all those Nosler Partitions I have put away might become collector items.

:-(

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Let all of the phone calls and spam begin.

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that's the day we send all that lead to "them" air mail.

Yep.

The radical environmentalists and the agencies that do their bidding and evictions need the same dosage.

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Got the same e-mail and replied to it.

That's what I was thinking. (Spam calls)

I should gave them the phone # 1369 Last four digits.

Done, but all those guys who tout using Barnes and other all copper bullets are just fueling the fire and giving the anti's ammunition to say that lead alternatives are available at reasonable prices with every copper bullet they send down the barrel.

Probably some of the very ones who responded to this use them.

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HSUS ISIS.. how in the hell is anyone suppose to keep track of all of these abbreviations and what they stand for...

petition signed tho and sent...

After lead is banned - they'll go for copper.

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Done, with reservations about all the info that they wanted. I was at Harbor Freight yesterday and when I went to pay out, the first question the cashier asked was my phone number. I told her that she did not need my phone number, and it pizzed her off. She was very short and stiff to me after that. I generally try not to be a horses butt, but I get enough junk phone calls as is. miles

Yep, and I predict that the "Fuddism" over black rifles for hunting will pale in comparison.

"It's all about hunting, and you don't 'need' a lead bullet to kill a deer, and what's a couple of dollars for a bullet on a hunting trip costing far more, if it will help the environment, etc. etc."

A lady from an Iowa ag dynasty made a lot of noise supporting a total ban on lead shot, IIRC, quite happy using non-toxic shot for everything.

No small concern to me, as these days I shoot lead bullets from .22 to .45 BPCR almost exclusively, and there aren't any practical substitutes. If lead bullets are banned, I will have some very expensive wall hangers.

Paul

Let's bump this up!

So now we are going to fight among ourselves and blame those of us who like and use Barnes bullets for the potential lead ban? Come on guys........... I shoot a lot more lead bullets than copper and have probably 100 times more traditional bullets on my shelves than I do copper. But there are times when I want a TTSX and am more confident in the results. Does that make me to blame for the potential ban? I don't think so. What about those of us who like, own, and shoot Tikka's. Are we responsible for the potential failures of American gun companies? I also don't think so, although I do try to buy "made in the USA".

We need to understand that the blame for the potential lead ban lies with the liberal left and blame them next November.

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here is the contact info for the info babe at HSUS that is involved with this

Media Contact: Kaitlin Sanderson: 301-721-6463; ksandersonhumanesociety.org

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All I need is for shooting to get even more expensive by being forced to buy copper bullets. Hell, Ballistic tips strain the budget enough, Partitions even more so.

Done. Thanks for the heads up.

Done, but then I googled Sally Jewell, and I'm pretty sure she could give a rat's a$$ what any of us thinks.

BTW, traditional lead ammunition does, in fact, pose a health risk to animals. As always, shot placement is key.

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It's really a shame that we have to do this.
I think those politicians could care less about us and are freedoms.
Everyday it's a fight to keep our freedom.
God bless and take care.

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Done. Thanks for the link and heads up.

I posted this on several forums, and you'd be surprised by some of the responses. If more people think like this guy we should be worried!



If people can't/won't get a clue that this issue is deeper than copper and lead, we could possibly loose this battle.

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Copied poster is definitely missing something. The. "Battle" as he puts it is having the right to choose.....

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SC

Done and forwarded to several non fire friends.

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how do I send this to myself so that I can put it out to my club members?

thanks, Mel Chung

Done, and forwarded to my buddies, too.

Copy the link, paste it in your e-mail, send to friends.



Travis

One of many dumb fuggs.

As for me, I'd never obey the law even if it did pass.



Travis

Done and forwarded to my contacts.

The is precisely what I was referring to in my post about Fuddism. Guns are only for hunting, yadda yadda.

Paul

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I sent mine. Cheers NC

Done. Where do people think lead comes from? Out of the dirt, for Pete's sake; we just put some of it back.

Yankees are more prone to Fuddism than any other I know. They have 9 day deer seasons and that's the only time they have a gun in their hands.

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100,000 times more lead on Federal Land from paint chips and dumped car batteries etc. than will ever occur from folks participating in traditional shooting sports/ammo.

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DF

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guys, the lead issue is real. Many scavenger birds are feasting on gut piles. Our lead bullets are fragmenting. There may only be a small amount of lead in the piles, but it is enough. Many of these birds are very sensitive to lead - for example, California condors and bald eagles. When a condor with a radio collar stops moving, they go out and find it, take it in, remove the lead from its blood, and put it back out. . Eagles aren't so lucky. Many are found sick and are put down, a few can be saved, but many are never found. Minnesota, Wisconsin, Utah all are seeing bald eagles with lead poisoning. Even Google knows about "eagle lead poisoning"

One endangered specie, another one that people consider a symbol of wilderness. . How long will it be before a judge or the EPA decides on the ban?

I strongly support the shooting sports. I was a skeptic, but I am also a scientist, and know several veterinarians. My research suggested that there was a problem; my vet friends confirmed my suspicions. I hunt, I shoot lead, but am switching to the non-toxic bullets before some judge makes me do it. As someone above pointed out, the cost isn't that much greater. Performance wise I think the non-toxics are better than lead. As sportsmen, I think it is up to us to minimalize collateral damage. If we get out and support the non-toxic movement, we have the high ground. It is up to us to do the right thing.

Look into this issue for yourself. We need to be able to fight back with facts.

Now I'm going to run for cover!

Survival of the fittest has always been the way of wild things. Lots of things are not around that used to be, and it is not all mans fault. We as humans have just as much right to live as any other animal, and even we have to adapt to keep our species alive. I do not go out of my way to try to make anything go extinct but if they do, I still sleep good at night. miles

I think it would be pretty cool to kill the LAST of something...

You probably don't need the nomex shorts, or to run for cover, because most of the folks who read your post have long experienced your particular bent and won't waste time/effort trying to rebut. I won't, either. Other news. Recently, near here, two scavenging eagles were hit/killed by vehicles, a cow elk died in a neighboring pasture due to a fly bite/virus, and vultures have been found dead - apparently due to coyote or wolf bites. That's just in this neighborhood. What should we do?

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taylorce1, thank you for posting this thread & link....you done good!

I'd be more than happy to collect them. More than likely there will be a ban on producing or selling ammunition that contains lead.

The ban will not be on previously acquired ammo.

Shod

Well said sir.

This isn't a poke at you Scott, but rather a chance to make a point. Even though American sportsman have brought some animals back from the brink of extinction through game management and clearly defined seasons, there are species world wide that become extinct all the time...and nature is the culprit, not man.

(I do see the same point was made on this thread before I made it)

Yes, dimocommies will need them.