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Given the trouble I'm having finding the smokeless powder I want/need, any suggestions for black powder or better yet a BP substitute load(s) for a 45-70? Would be much appreciated. I'm shooting a modern Marlin 1895. Thank you in advance, Richard


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RichardAustin,
Your best bet is to shoot TrailBoss powder, unless your heart is set on Black powder(subs). It's alot of fun to shoot these TB loads. Anyway here is a link to Hodgdon Triple 7 data:

http://hodgdon.com/PDF/muzzleloading_manual_2008.pdf?CHECKBOX_1=on

you have to scroll down to the cartridge data portion.

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If you want to shoot BP you can get a ton of info in a book by Paul Matthews. Black Powder has a lot of problems with fowling you need to deal with this if you are going to shoot any amount of rounds. Straight BP will cause accuracy problems in a few shots unless you find a way to keep the build up soft. Matthews goes into several solutions to this problem. The Book is Loading the Black Powder Rifle Cartridge. I shoot duplex loads as described in this book and find them to be very clean with little buildup. Good luck and make sure you read the section on brass cleaning. I all most forgot to mention he has a good bit of info on BP substitute loads.

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Give Blackhorn 209 a try. Best BP substitute on the market. Clean up with regular solvents, just like smokeless ammo.

http://www.blackhorn209.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/b209blackpowdercartridgedata.pdf

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Originally Posted by Labman95
Give Blackhorn 209 a try. Best BP substitute on the market. Clean up with regular solvents, just like smokeless ammo.

http://www.blackhorn209.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/b209blackpowdercartridgedata.pdf



Load my 444 with 209 on occasion,great stuff and easy cleanup.


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Trail Boss loads are fun, for sure, and easy cleanup because it is not BP. Also I use Blue Dot with some home cast loads and am very well satisfied with it, and RL-7 and IMR4198.


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