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I have experience with owning the Springfield XD compact, and 4 Glocks. Have looked at the Smith and Wesson M & P, H and K USP and the FN. For those who have experience with the polymer framed striker type semi-automatics, which has been the overall most accurate?

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For me Glock. I've owned XD, HK, S&W, and FN. Nothing shot any better than the Glocks and those are the only plastic pistols left.

This was at 15 yards, 45'. I'm not always that good at 15 yards, but this is pretty typical for me at 10 yards.

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Well the USP and FN aren't striker fired...but of those in the bunch, I've found the USP to be the most accurate regardless of cartridge; they just plain shoot. However, I like the USP the least of the bunch. They're great guns, but they're just far larger than they need to be. For a service pistol, that's no big deal. For a concealed carry pistol, that's a really big deal for me. The USP is just way too wide.

In my hands the S&W and XD both shoot a little straighter than the Glock, but honestly the difference is so small I'd never even bother making that a consideration for acceptance. Between the 3 the difference is probably less than 1" at 25 yards. I can hit targets all the way out to 100 yards + with a Glock, so I'd say it's more than sufficiently accurate.

For daily carry, I'd choose in order of preference:

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I'd say, it's pretty much a toss-up between for me, the Glock and the Springfield XD-S. The top photo is 15 rounds from a Glock longslide .40 cal at 15 yards slow fire off hand I fired last fall. Someone else's gun.

The bottom photo is 5 rounds from a Bi-Tone XD-S in .45 caliber that I own. Both groups come in at under or right at 2" off hand at 15 yards. Of course the Glock had a 6" barrel and the XD-S has a 3.3 inch barrel. The Glock had a 6" sight radius, the XD had a 3" sight radius...

Most accurate? I'd say the XD-S won't take a back seat to any Glock made, anywhere.

But then, I haven't bought into the Glock Hype.

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Just to give you something else to think about... check out the new Walther PPQ M2 5-in. pistol. There's very little to dislike and whole lot to like in this pistol.


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I like my Glock. G-19 shoots tight groups.

Always works when you press the trigger.



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A Glock .357 SIG is the most accurate polymer pistol I have shot.

But when it comes to owning plastic pistols, I go with the Springfield XD and Kahr in various iterations.

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My experience has shown the XD to be very accurate - more so than Glock or M&P. In fact, my XD-9 subcompact shoots better than the others in full-size for me.


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My XDs and Kahr CW45 are quite accurate, particularly when you figure the short sight radius. My ex Glock 21 longslide (6 inch barrel) was quite accurate also, but it had an aftermarket barrel (KKM), not to mention almost twice the sight radius of the above two. I find most pistols will shoot to my satisfaction with the right load. 1 1/4" at 15 yards and 2 inches minus at 25 yards and I feel I'm doing good. Also had an M&P 45 and a G23 that I couldn't get to shoot as well as I wanted them to.

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XDM45 was the most accurate pistol I ever owned. Still kicking myself for getting rid of it, but for some reason I haven't bought another one.

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my little XDS might not be the MOST accurate, but it darn sure has to be in the running. At 10 yards, it makes little clover leaf groups.


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H&K has a striker fired pistol out, VP9 I believe. Supposed to be the new hotness. As I'm pretty happy with my G17 I'm going to wait and see if the H&K striker .45 is going to be worth an upgrade.

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Springfield XD and then Glock


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I have the Glock, HK (USP), and XD all in 45 ACP.

The HK is by far the best

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My Springfield XDs is scary accurate

With that being said, I love M&Ps and find them to be quite accurate


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I can't tell the difference between any of them.



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Off-hand groups at 5-10yds and seat of the pants impressions aren't really going to tell you anything meaningful. What you need is bench testing or a Ransom Rest at 25yds with a variety of loads.

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Here's a 5- Shot 1.5 inch group from my Glock 32 .357sig at 25 yards using a sandbag rest. Shot with Factory Speer Gold Dot 125 gr JHP.
Pretty damn accurate for a plastic POS wink

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Off-hand groups at 5-10yds and seat of the pants impressions aren't really going to tell you anything meaningful. What you need is bench testing or a Ransom Rest at 25yds with a variety of loads.


If a guy and a gun can produce sub 2" groups off hand at 15 yards, it's likely that either or both is capable of even better bench rest groups. So it's a bit over the top to suggest the anecdotal evidence is meaningless. I agree, that a sampling of the top brands of guns and ammo coupled with a ransom rest would be more meaningful. Still, starting in the 80s or thereabout, the vast majority of gun writers quit shooting "defensive" guns at 25 yards, either because they themselves, or the guns weren't up to the challenge. It's about the time when the "defensive accuracy" terminology started getting bandied about. My personal requirement has nothing to do with bench rested groups. If my defensive pistol can't keep every shot in the head of a target at 25 yards, off hand, "IT" isn't up to the challenge.


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My XD and Kahr PM9 are extremely accurate when I am doing my job.


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