24hourcampfire.com
24hourcampfire.com
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Hop To
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 9,592
F
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
F
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 9,592
I have ordered a Turnbull 45-90 and I am on a group buy for a .460 hollow base 300+ gr mold to cast my own for this rifle.

Am I going in the right direction with the hollow base bullet or is there a better slug that I should be looking for.

I should be getting the rifle in about 3 months and I have no idea when the mold will go threw the group buy.

Any help would be appreciated.

Last edited by funshooter; 07/25/14.
BP-B2

Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,068
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 1,068
No better place to ask than here: http://historicshooting.com/mybb/index.php

Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 9,592
F
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
F
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 9,592
The rifle I am getting is a new built version of the Winchester 1886. Modern materials that can shoot black powder or smokeless.
Turnbull recommends a 300ish gr bullet but they say that it can handle the 500gr bruisers.

I do not think that it falls under the older Historical firearms.

If I do not get any response I will try posting on the other forum.
Thanks Creeker for the advise.

Joined: May 2004
Posts: 55,889
Campfire Kahuna
Offline
Campfire Kahuna
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 55,889
Humble opinion on all things .45-something is near abouts 500 grains is where you start. Can't speak to the 1886 but the Marlin 1895 CB rifle shoots them well and the recoil is not abusive.

That said, you can probably make meat with the 300 grain bullet if inclined.


I am..........disturbed.

Concerning the difference between man and the jackass: some observers hold that there isn't any. But this wrongs the jackass. -Twain


Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 9,592
F
Campfire Outfitter
OP Offline
Campfire Outfitter
F
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 9,592
On the Castboolits forum a guy said that he did not like hollow base bullets. I would be better off with a solid base gas check.

TurnBull recommended a 300--400gr slug but that it would handle just about anything I would want to put threw it and be able hold on to it with out breaking me.
I asked them about recoil reducers and they told me that I probably did not need them. The recoil of this rifle was very manageable.
I can not weight to get it and start shooting. Just trying to do some home work before I start making mistakes.

IC B2

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 19,822
A
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
A
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 19,822
Originally Posted by funshooter
...Am I going in the right direction with the hollow base bullet or is there a better slug that I should be looking for...


I would look at both the Lyman 457121PH at 480gr plain base or the SAECO # 019 at 485gr gas check design. The Lyman runs a bit small in diameter, and the SAECO is a .460" diameter bullet.

Best wishes for your new project!

Ed


"Not in an open forum, where truth has less value than opinions, where all opinions are equally welcome regardless of their origins, rationale, inanity, or truth, where opinions are neither of equal value nor decisive." Ken Howell



Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 983
M
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
M
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 983
I use an RCBS 45-300 FN. I have one cavity hollow pointed the other is a FN, both GC. The 45-90 originally used the 300 gr. bullet as to get higher vel. I would think that up to 2100+ would be doable, remember a 405 Win. is 2150 full blast w/a 300 gr. Pretty sure that the cast GC bullets can be pushed as fast as any jacketed.-Muddy

Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 19,269
Campfire Ranger
Offline
Campfire Ranger
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 19,269
Find out EXACTLY what is the maximum O.A.L. of the cartridge that will function through the rifle's action. Base the bullet decision on THAT.

Last edited by EvilTwin; 07/31/14.

Be afraid,be VERY VERY afraid
ad triarios redisse
My Buddy eh76 speaks authentic Frontier Gibberish!
[Linked Image]
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 1,629
Campfire Regular
Offline
Campfire Regular
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 1,629
Originally Posted by funshooter
I can not weight to get it and start shooting.


You could "get by" with a hollow base if you were to only load black powder, but I don't see any advantage even then.

I have an 1886 chambered to 50-110. Its great fun to shoot and kills black bears real good. I generally use only BP loads. I have several bullet molds from 300 to 500 grains for it, and all the bullets I use are flat-based, flat point with wide meplats. Its comfortable to shoot with black powder and 500 grain bullets. It can be made uncomfortable with smokeless. I've played with smokeless loads using the 410-grain Cast Performance LBT and the 450-grain Barnes Originals at fairly unnerving levels. Anyway, its a nice big gun that handles recoil well. I can't imagine your 45-90 being a problem.

Enjoy!


There are many copies.

Moderated by  RickBin 

Link Copied to Clipboard
YB23

Who's Online Now
99 members (160user, 10Glocks, 308ld, 338reddog, 257_X_50, 10gaugemag, 10 invisible), 1,684 guests, and 754 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Statistics
Forums81
Topics1,187,728
Posts18,400,775
Members73,822
Most Online11,491
Jul 7th, 2023


 







Fish & Game Departments | Solunar Tables | Mission Statement | Privacy Policy | Contact Us | DMCA
Hunting | Fishing | Camping | Backpacking | Reloading | Campfire Forums | Gear Shop
Copyright © 2000-2024 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5
(Release build 20201027)
Responsive Width:

PHP: 7.3.33 Page Time: 0.099s Queries: 14 (0.004s) Memory: 0.8290 MB (Peak: 0.9105 MB) Data Comp: Zlib Server Time: 2024-03-29 09:14:29 UTC
Valid HTML 5 and Valid CSS