Home Forums Hunting & Shooting Hunter's Campfire If true, I would like to see this Border Agent's head on a pike

How are LEO's making customers climb the pole?
because he didn't want the scout to grab a bag, that he did not know what it contained?
What if the bag contained some kind of weapon or if it contained drugs? Then what would be reported on the news outlets?

Again the agents were stupid to stop em for taking a pic and confiscating the camera. a simple please erase my picture as I do not want my image used. That would have been enough.
Again the agent should not have pulled him weapon on the scout trying to get to his bag. A simple, stand back you can not get that bag while I am conducting a search would have been enough.

Im not denying that they took the situation too far, what I am saying is the agent by not knowing what the scout had in the bag, as a safety precaution has a right to ask the kid to not touch the bag and stand back. He does not however have the right to pull his weapon.
The agent also has a right to not have his picture taken if he doesn't want it taken, however in my opinion he was wrong to confiscate the camera.

A lot of the story seems fishy to me and I would hope a gun was not really drawn. If it was really drawn then there is a lot more issues to deal with than just a hand slap.

I do some volunteer work searching for lost people. We have a mix of civilians working with LE agents from a variety of departments. In April I worked with a team of dog handlers along with 2 guys who were federal agents. At the end of the day we were going to do a group photo and the 2 agents told us it was against their REGULATIONS, NOT AGAINST THE LAW to pose in such a photo. But it was OK if they just happened to be photographed while working.

I understand the concern of being targeted. But if the same rule applies to border agents there was no law broken in just taking a photo of someone.

An unfortunate event if true...

Sad world if we are hassling boy scouts, heck I grew up with cubs and scouts.

On a lighter note, my brother and I like to go down to the Cabelas in Lacey, Washington and look around every so often. Coming back one time we were quizzed at the border by the cute young female boder person (CYFBP). I had picked up a Wyoming bone saw to replace one I had lost that year.

CYFBP "Anything to declare?)

Me "Yes maam, a bone saw."

CYFBP "What's a bone saw?"

ME "When hunting, after you take an animal you have to cut it up and quarter it to carry it out. I use the bone saw to cut through the spine, the pelvis, and a couple of other spots."

CYFBP (with look of growing disgust on her face)"You mean like cutting the animal up? eeewwww!"

Me "This a good one, comes in really handy, just lost the other one on my last hunt."

CYFBP "Go, just go, go!"

Me "Have a nice day maam."

I'm confused. Was this a US Border Patrol Agent, or a Canadian Agent? If it's a US Agent, he needs to be put in chains.

Chains? No, too dignified, an Auguste clown outfit and makeup will do, for two weeks, on duty, unarmed.

They claim at the end of the article that this was an illegal search.... perhaps I am wrong but aren't searches conducted crossing the border legal?

The ignore function works for the B.S.
They must have been some shifty Boy Scouts for them to act this way,if they did.

Most triple-retention duty holsters have snaps. The Safariland SS III has two. I can assure you that when I unsnap, they can be heard.

I'm not sure what the feral govt uses or which agencies you are aware of, but if they are a uniformed agency and following any sort of sensible firearms doctrine they are using a retention duty holster of some sort.

The suits? Probably not.

Hello Mr. Troll
I spent 32 years as an LEO and I never once arbitrarily unholstered and pointed my duty gun at someone for less than a suspected felony, especially a boy scout in scout clothing. There is nothing in any law federal or state that I know of that prevents a citizen from taking a picture of an LEO regardless of the employer.

If what the scouts are saying is correct the officer in this situation needs some serious discipline. Not allowing the boy scouts and the leaders to witness the search and deleting the pictures in my opinion is not only disrespectful but is unlawful. The officer destroyed evidence when he took the camera and deleted the pictures.

The bottom line is they ARE NOT free to use what ever force they want when it comes to Americans returning to America. Chuck Grassley is following up and I'm pretty sure he will get the truth unless of course the Border Guards have already destroyed evidence. Then it's word against word. I have to admit, I would probably take the boy scouts word for what happened.

kwg

Officer safety is the only thing that matters. The only people who disagree with that are cop-hating liberals/libertarians(like there is any difference between the 2.) Maybe when you hit 30 you will change your outlook?

I bet the good police in your area were glad to see you go since you wouldn't back them up on incidents like this.

This thread is very entertaining, I love watching idiots that don't realize what Sherp is doing to them.

Showing cop haters for what they are. Police officers on scene supported each others' actions, why don't the civilian scouts and several here?

They weren't. Genuine good guy and good officer. Never met him, but know enough citizens and officers that know him well.

Good police aren't liabilities.

Good luck to you avoiding what you're obviously asking for.....

I am not seeing any bad police or police who are liabilities except those officers who fail to aid their fellow officers.

Classic example why we need far less govt and govt employees. Both suck.......

They said that to George Zimmerman too
How old were these "children"?

I hope you mean we need to take agencies like the BLM and shift their budget and manpower in to the FBI, military or other armed branches and increase the budget and number of agents/soldiers as a way to make government smaller.

Doesn't matter, even a civilian toddler is a threat which is why agencies need the No Hesitation targets.

sherp,
officer safety is very important, but so is following the levels of force. I myself am perfectly fine with the agent not wanting that scout to get to his bag. What I am not ok with is him going to the extreme and pulling his weapon on the scout (if infact the story is true and the gun was pulled)
In this situation the most force the agent should have used when the scout went for his bag was a stern verbal command.

i'd still like to see the truth of the whole incident.