Got inspired by the .375 thread and I've got a new Nine Three on the way so I need some ideas for scoping it. Pictures of your fine rifles are appreciated!
Ugly as sin, but it works. Basically a black finnlight with Recknagel sights.
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Ugly as sin, but it works. Basically a black finnlight with Recknagel sights.
Great looking gun Gary. I've got the wood stocked equivalent coming. I had a hard time choosing between yours and the wood one. I see you've got Optilocks on it. Do you have any experience with the Leupold QR bases/rings? Love the Randall on top too by the way.
Looks wise, my 9,3 Sako is nothing to write home to momma over, but it is one heck of a workhorse. Only thing I hate about the rifle are the scope covers. I break a set on almost every hard hunt the rifle sees. Wish I could use Aluma covers on that scope, but Bushnell is willing to send me free replacement covers every time they break, so I keep sticking them on and calling them toll free to send me another set when they break.
Yes, on the M70 416 Rem I built. I prefer the QRs on that rifle, though they were a custom job to fit that receiver. But, if they make some form of adapter to put QRs on a Sako dovetail, I'd not use them, the Sako ringmounts are the way to go on the Sako, unless mounting a short tube scope.
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Fine looking rifle that is......I best not post a photo of mine as it's rather utilitarian in comparison.
Mine too, and the op wants pics and ideas of scopes as well. Mine just has a 3-9x40 on it, but it shoots like a house a fire . Function/reliability, accuracy, and then looks. I've tried the low powered scopes and don't like them, so went back to the good ol versatile 3-9x40. A leupold VX3 3.5-10x40 or 2.5-8x36 would also be a good choice..
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
Mine is just the basic Kevlar Carbine CZ with Cerakote, a set of Alaska Arms QDs and the FXII-3X. It shoots incredible groups with a short barrel and a low powered scope.
Mine is an older CZ 550 American. I love the adjustable (non set bs) trigger it has. Basic wood stock and el-cheapo Burris FFII 3-9x40 (older American made one) with the ballistic plex reticle. Nothing fancy, but it get's the job done..
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
Fine looking rifle that is......I best not post a photo of mine as it's rather utilitarian in comparison.
Mine too, and the op wants pics and ideas of scopes as well. Mine just has a 3-9x40 on it, but it shoots like a house a fire . Function/reliability, accuracy, and then looks. I've tried the low powered scopes and don't like them, so went back to the good ol versatile 3-9x40. A leupold VX3 3.5-10x40 or 2.5-8x36 would also be a good choice..
BSA,interesting choice of scopes. As I said before I've been looking real hard at the VX-6 1x6, but I've also considered the VX6 2x12 and depending on the day you ask me, I might tell you either one. Now I can't imagine I'd ever turn that one up much past about 8 or 9 but it seems like to me that would provide a useful low range at 2x and plenty of high range for any thing any one would ever need.
I like utilitarian guns and often leave the fancy ones behind, worried about them getting roughed up.
I really like the VX-6 series, to me about the most scope for the buck. I think Leupold has really challenced the Alpha Euros with this one.
The draw back to the 1-6, especially with a German #4, is long range shooting. My 9.3 is a tack driver with JB's 250 NAB load. With the 1-6, about 300 yds. was the max I could see well. That gun now wears a 3-9x40 Conquest, also in QD rings, for some long range shooting. The VX-6 would be my choice for general hunting.
You asked about the VX-6 2-12. That is one of my favorites, as I'm a CDS fan. Mine is a non-illuminated duplex and is on a MkV/Brux 7RM.
Mine is bedded into two stocks, a synthetic and a wood one. It's an FN 30-06 I picked up at a pawn shop when I lived in Kansas. It was built by a shop in Wiesbaden Germany and is so marked. It has ERA sights and the Sako trigger. I had it rebored by Cliff LaBounty in 2000. I hunted Africa with it in 2002 using the synthetic stock. I had the walnut one laying around for some time and sent it off to karnis for a refinish, pad and ebony tip install. And, yes, it wears Weaver mounts.
My other one is a box stock and as new Husqvarna with an FN action is a beautiful beechwood stock.
I have a custom 9.3 built on a Heym Mauser action, the 25" McGowen barrel is rigged with a quarter rib express sight and NEGC front sight with a nice sling swivel barrel band.
A 1.5-5 Leupold is housed in a set of Burris QD rings on Warne steel bases, a beautiful Accurate Innovations walnut stock holds it all together, all the metal has been matte black cerakoted.
It's favorite load is the 320 gr Woodleigh PP Weld-Core bullet powered to a very accurate 2400 fps with a hefty charge of RL-17.
A rifle cartridge that punches way above it's weight IMHO.
Alright, I'm a sucker for these 9.3 threads. Especially when the OP is asking for pics. Here is mine, right after I got it. It was set up with an older leupold M8 4x. I shot it that way and decided I needed more power (creature of habbit and poor eyesight I guess). This one also has the rear express sights and front fire sight:
I've tried the VX3 1.5-5x20 like some of these guys here and decided I didn't like it either. This was on my old 375 H&H for a little while:
Here are both rifles in the same pic. The 9.3 is shown with the 3-9x40:
I used the 9.3 on a cow elk hunt in 2012 and it worked great: She didn't stop the 286gr partition either.
This is how the rifle shoots. It was glass bedded by some guy they call BSA:
Oops, forgot to add there are no cherry picked groups here. This is what it was during load development. I settled on the 59gr. charge wt of RL15 for the 286gr. partition:
I've since switched scopes because the old American made Burris had been on 7 confirmed rifles and finally started to go south. It was always my "go to" scope for a new rifle because it always held POI so well. The eyepiece/power adjust ring became loose and the POI started to vary. The new Burris that I installed is basically the same thing (an older American made FFII) and is rock solid. Good enough to shoot this kind of group:
The first 5 shots were well within 1/2", so I figured I'd send another 5 down range. This is something I've been extremely impressed with when dealing with the 9.3x62mm. I am thinking the OP will also be extremely impressed with his 9.3, it's a good one!!!!
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
Thanks DF, I'll have to find the photo posting info. FN commercial action from a JC Higgings 270 donor. Action sent to jkob and he added a Shilen #3 @23 inches , timney @ 3lbs and a side swing safety in about 2 weeks. I the shipped it off to McMillan for a Mark X stock standard fill. Charley Santoni did the cerakote to look like bluing and bedded the action in the stock while he had it. Leupold 3.5x10x40 CDS in Leupold QR's. Likes 250 Accubonds @ 2600 and shoots 286's and 270's equally well. Have hammered steel out to 600 with it. Easily my favorite rifle in my safe.
Never take life to seriously, after all ,no one gets out of it alive.
jkob is a master Mauser smith, having done a couple of projects for me. He's known for his Mauser side swing safety conversions.
Good choice and looks like Charley did a great Cerakote job.
JB's 250 gr. NAB load for the 9.3x62 is hard to beat for long range, IMO. The 9.3x62 isn't known as a LR round, but can get it done as you've noted. And when that big bullet gets down range, it still has some "juice"...
Fellow cattlemen and shooters think like that, watching a good bud finish off a mean, rogue bull (his bull of course) with a real big boomer. What's not to like.
Functionally, I can't tell much difference, if any. The VX-3 is a couple ounces lighter than the VX-R, but the VX-R has the Fire Dot reticle, if that is really any advantage. The MSRP on the VX-R is $624.00, and on the VX-3, $499.00. I have grown quite fond of the 1.75-6x32, and I'll use that scope on most hunting rifles that I have to scope or re-scope in the future. Only specialized rifles will get something else.
I've read that the VX-3 may be a tad better than the older VX-III and the new VX-2 has glass comparable to the VX-III. Also the VX-R glass is reportedly about like the VX-2/VX-III.
That's why I was asking how they matched up. I've handled both, but not side by side. I have both VX-3 and VX-III, the VX-R belongs to a guy at my deer camp. I have two VX-6's and think they're a notch above the VX-R. I do like the Fire Dot and think Leupold got that one right.
Those are two very nice rifles and I know you're justifiably proud of them...
This is mine. Not shown in the pic but has a Vortex Viper 2-7 scope in QD mounts.
- 1940 K98 action & bottom metal - #718 LW barrel long chambered in 9.3x62 cut to 23 inches - NECG front and rear sights - Talley barrel band sling swivel - Black walnut stock w/ decelerator pad
7.3 pounds as shown. A little shy of 9 pounds with scope, ammo, and sling.
If you died tomorrow, what would you have done today ...
This is mine. Not shown in the pic but has a Vortex Viper 2-7 scope in QD mounts.
- 1940 K98 action & bottom metal - #718 LW barrel long chambered in 9.3x62 cut to 23 inches - NECG front and rear sights - Talley barrel band sling swivel - Black walnut stock w/ decelerator pad
7.3 pounds as shown. A little shy of 9 pounds with scope, ammo, and sling.
I like it.
The weight on that one, all up, seems about right to me. My AHR at 9.5#'s all up may be a tad heavy, but it sure is a nice shooter. Just wouldn't want to pack it all over the creation.
This is mine. Not shown in the pic but has a Vortex Viper 2-7 scope in QD mounts.
- 1940 K98 action & bottom metal - #718 LW barrel long chambered in 9.3x62 cut to 23 inches - NECG front and rear sights - Talley barrel band sling swivel - Black walnut stock w/ decelerator pad
7.3 pounds as shown. A little shy of 9 pounds with scope, ammo, and sling.
That's about the perfect "all up" weight for a 9.3 as far as I'm concerned. Beautiful rifle!!!
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
Bob, I have to say that rifle is beautiful. Do you have more pics? How does it shoot and have you taken any game with it?
It shot great; I used it on a moose hunt. Recoil was up there because it was so light, but it was fun on the running moose marksmanship test. I zeroed it at 100 meters. Love those Carl Gustaf/Husqvarna actions. I've been looking for a lefty for years. I will be buying one of the new Zoli 1900s when they come out next year. Here's another picture of the lefty 9.3 Gustaf. Bob
Here's gunwriter John DeHaviland with a right-handed one in .30-06.
And my hot Swedish guide, checking her zero. She's killed moose in the double-digits.
I've got a CZ550 American, which has been a great rifle, however I'm not overly fond of the stock and wish the rifle was a bit lighter at times. Any suggestions on replacing the stock? Any particular McMillan perhaps?
I hate the safety on mine: That's about the only complaint I have about the CZ550 American. The stock is just fine and the weight isn't bad either. Those FL stocks and European hogbacks are hideous. A set trigger on a big game rifle is weird as well. I'm glad mine is the adjustable/non set type. AHR does spectacular work on the CZ550, something you may want to look into. Also, if you go to the Mcmillan website you'll find stocks for the 550...
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
This is mine. Not shown in the pic but has a Vortex Viper 2-7 scope in QD mounts.
- 1940 K98 action & bottom metal - #718 LW barrel long chambered in 9.3x62 cut to 23 inches - NECG front and rear sights - Talley barrel band sling swivel - Black walnut stock w/ decelerator pad
7.3 pounds as shown. A little shy of 9 pounds with scope, ammo, and sling.
What does that shortened #718 LW barrel mike at the muzzle, if you don't mind me asking?
Yeah, I would like to fika with her... But seriously, John is telling the truth. Lots of beautiful woman hunters in the Swedish woods. There is a couple in my hunting group and they are just as serious about it as the men if not more. Both of them bring out a 9.3 for moose season. One with a x57 HVA M46 and the other a x62 HVA 1900 - both sub 8 pound setups and no complaints.
I really like those old HVA M46 and M146 rifles, and they sell for rather low prices in Sweden (especially the M46's "potato throwers" in 9.3 x 57 -- I missed an all-original, unmolested one this summer for the equivalent of $US 135. Sob.
They are light (as you note) and when you pull the trigger on one in 9.3 x 62 you soon know when the rifle goes off.
One of the guys in my hunting team has about half a pound of recovered 9.3 Norma Orxy bullets (those are the bonded ones) from moose -- and nearly all of of them look good enough to use in advertizing.
Got inspired by the .375 thread and I've got a new Nine Three on the way so I need some ideas for scoping it. Pictures of your fine rifles are appreciated!
For all around use logical way to go about it is to look at 1.5, 1.75, 2, 2.5 to 6 or 8x with objective lens diameter of 36mm or 42mm. One does not look at brands but for FMC optical elements and largest FOV with plenty of eye relief. I'm going through this process for my .300H&H magnum and for .375 it would work the same. Several years ago the winner was Kahles Helia C it will be interesting to find out who comes out on top this time.
PS. The mounts to use are those made by Weaver. In USA those can be bought at worlds largest supermarket chain called Walmart. Those mounts are light, simple and almost never allow scope to move.
Here with a 2-7x32 Vortex Viper w/C3 reticle but also use a 2.5x20 Leupold M8 w/hvy plex. Both with steel Weaver rings on Weaver bases. Ammo is either 270gr Speer or Privi factory stuff.
I don't know what it is, but I like all of these 9.3's. My CZ550 really won me over after using it on that cow elk 2 years ago. It's accuracy is also second to none. It seems the cartridge itself is very inherently accurate and is the reason I've been thinking about re-boring one of my model 70's to the 9.3x62. Personally, I think I could chit can everything else and just hunt the world with a 9.3x62....
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
My setup was CZ550 with Mannlicher stock and 1.5-6x42 in heavy CZ rings. The rifle was very heavy by itself made heaver by my poor choices. If I had to do it over I would pick CZ with plastic stock and light scope from Leupold. I noticed that Leupold truly shines in small to medium sized scopes of light plus solid optical and mechanical construction. I'm surprised to see so many Scandinavian rifles and very few CZ rifles. I thought in USA CZ would be most prevalent weapon in this caliber. Another great rifle was Ruger chambered for .35 Whelen. Nice handling rifle with tang safety plus less expensive and easier to find ammo.
Ruger also made some 9.3x62mm runs. The Africans were beautiful rifles and the gunblast edition is also very nice... I wouldn't mind getting my hands on either one..:
Originally Posted by JGray
I'm very pleased with the Hawkeye African 9.3x62 I stumbled across last year - sometimes they even use nice lumber:
...and when they shoot good as well:
...makes me think "Best in the World", but that handle is already taken, or so I'm told
Now, if I can just hit the damn quarter next time...
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
Ruger made and make very nice rifles that come with quality iron sights. The best I have ever handled was older one chambered for .35 Whelen. Two things made it outstanding tang safety (where the safety should be) and ".30-06 barrel blank" with larger whole through it. A hard kicker the way manly rifle should be.
Lovely rifle. Just a tiny bit of info on picking scope for something like that. Look at pics of rifles by Scandinavians (female shooter).....she picked small light scope with mid size objective lens which is the way to go. The only thing low power straight tube scopes are good for are big bore dangerous game rifles or shotgun slug guns. These make no sense for medium bore or smaller because you are robbing yourself of light gathering qualities and not getting anything else in return. The worst choices are those "straight tube" safari-type Euro scopes with 30mm tubes because those are dreadfully expensive and heavy. Remember it "looks nice on wall" or in net pics on forums should be left to oil paintings.
CZ 550FS with steel magazine parts, Leupold M8 4X bought new in 1972, Warne rings. Stock shortened 3/4". Original recoil pad. Set trigger disabled. shoots 1" or less with almost any load.
1917 is right. CZ USA were very helpful on the phone; they not only sent me a steel floor plate and follower, they sent my plastic parts back as well. The plastic floor plate was a bad idea, but the plastic follower worked fine and would save an oz. or two. I went all steel, but it was nice to have a choice.
Mine is a completely stock CZ 550 American with Kevlar stock. I used Warne scope rings and a Leupold VXII 2-7x33. I don't normally use heavy scope rings but, my rifle seemed a bit barrel-heavy so, I chose the Warne rings which is a good match for the rifle. The more I shoot it the more I like it. I think it is a winner.
If you need a steel follower (to replace your plastic one) for a CZ 550 9.3x62 mm, contact CZ and they will send you one.
Great ! I'll give them a ring.
I just stuck a scope on mine I weekend.Well, the second scope actually. The first was an old Redfield low pro 2-7 that locked up on 7x. The second is a Nikon prostaff 2-7x36 It's sitting in Burris custom QD lo rings. The scope is sitting as low as possible. If I have the butler creek covers on, the bolt handle hits the cover, but clears the ocular bell without the covers on. It's boresighted and ready for sight in and deer season
I just put a Conquest 4x32 on mine last evening. So now I've got 3 scopes in QD Weaver rings ready to go. An Leupold M8 2.5x20mm w/hvy plex and a Vortex Viper 2-7x33 w/C3.
When I bought my CZ, it came with 80 rounds of ammo. 20 rounds loaded by Superior Ammo- 10 ea. of 250gr Woodleigh, 286gr Woddleigh, 250gr Barnes X and 286gr Banres X, a box of Nosler Custom 286gr Partitions, and a box of Norma 232gr Vulkans. I'm gonna use the 232gr for the lil whitetail, squirrel sized, deer we have in the south.
A local gun shop has a used, excellent condition Ziess 4x diatal for around $250 that I'm considering
My new Tikka T3 Hunter is being released from jail tomorrow. (I am in the People's Democratic Republic of California). I am thinking about putting a Picatinny rail on it from Mountain Tactical / Tikka Performance and perhaps a Zeiss Duralyt 2-8 x 42 IR-w-La Rue QD rings. I have a H&K Slb 2000 .30-06 with a rail, and I like the idea of being able to share the scope.
My T3 Hunter 9.3 x 62 was released from jail yesterday. I can't get over how light it is, at least compared to my CZ 550. However, while the stock is wood, it just doesn't feel quite right. Perhaps a bit too slim to save weight, and the pull is on the short side for me. I may take a closer look at some of the replacement stocks offered by Mountain Tactical / Tikka Performance.
Stock is order, barrel is installed and in transit to get bases machined. From there it is on to Mcm for fitting and them back to Mike McCabe for sights, barrel band, 3 pos. safety, trigger, bluing and bedding. Should have a load worked up and be in the fight by next season.
Going the whole nine yards that's for sure. Checked into having the forend reworked the way you'd like it?
Good bit of talk about recoil on your link. As far as it goes I've had people who hardly do any shooting at all shoot mine (8.5lbs w/one round,270gr2410)and just get a big grin. Big diff between it and my 7.25lb .300
I have looked into forend modification but will set it up as it comes from Mcm and run it for a season. If I get the itch I may mess with it.
Saw a Ruger a while back that made me think it would be ok. I liked the way it looked. Not perfect but not bad enough to mess with off the bat. Ruger link The stock is almost identical. As is the length of the barrel, sights and barrel band location.
I don't mind recoil that much and my stature helps with that. IMO the recoil profile of the 9.3x62 is not too harsh to begin with. More push than punch. It is being built light but parts add up fast. It might be rough with open sights but scoped it should be a breeze. I like to run Partitions but I think I may dabble in the 320 Woodleighs just for fun.
Yes it is! I know what 300yds looking through my Leupold 2.5X is like.
What are some specs on your Mauser build?
I wouldn't even attempt a shot that far with a 2.5x scope. Must be all in the eyes I guess. I've shot pop cans with mine at 350, but the scope was on 9x.
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
Nuthin' pretty. But my always go to rifle for killing. Old azz Redfield 2x7 low profile. Posted this pic elsewhere on forum. But it works for me.
Everyone laughs at the bolt handle. Took the useless sporting clay recoil pad that ot came with and replaced with the thinnest decellerator pad we had on the shelf. Got the LOP down to a manageable length. My favorite working rifle.
Started out as a Husqvarna 146 in x 57. Co-working and I had a slow day so that evening I went home with a x 62.
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"I wouldn't even attempt a shot that far with a 2.5x scope. Must be all in the eyes I guess. I've shot pop cans with mine at 350, but the scope was on 9x."
Nuthin' pretty. But my always go to rifle for killing. Old azz Redfield 2x7 low profile. Posted this pic elsewhere on forum. But it works for me.
Everyone laughs at the bolt handle. Took the useless sporting clay recoil pad that ot came with and replaced with the thinnest decellerator pad we had on the shelf. Got the LOP down to a manageable length. My favorite working rifle.
Started out as a Husqvarna 146 in x 57. Co-working and I had a slow day so that evening I went home with a x 62.
Pretty is as pretty does (or something like that).
"I wouldn't even attempt a shot that far with a 2.5x scope. Must be all in the eyes I guess. I've shot pop cans with mine at 350, but the scope was on 9x."
Never said a thing about shooting.
I heard you the first time. Do many guys know what the sight picture looks like with a 3x at "380 yards"?????????
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
"I wouldn't even attempt a shot that far with a 2.5x scope. Must be all in the eyes I guess. I've shot pop cans with mine at 350, but the scope was on 9x."
Never said a thing about shooting.
I heard you the first time. Do many guys know what the sight picture looks like with a 3x at "380 yards"?????????
An Alaskan bull moose is a very large target with a lung area like a wash tub. For years I hunted with a receiver [peep] sight and now that I've had cataract surgery, I will be trying the NECG sight on my CZ.'
I don't consider magnification as the primary benefit of a scope. Having the sights and target all in a single focal plane I see as the primary benefit of a scope. At least for big, big game.
I have the 9.3 itch. I checked the Sako and Tikka sites and they offer lefty rifles in this caliber. Their specs list the rifling twists at 14" while my reloading manuals and barrel makers sites use 10"-12" twists. What are your thoughts on proper twist for the 9.3X62?
Did a good bit of research on twist rates before having my M98 rebored. Found 1-9.5 up to 1-16 references. CZ's are 1-9.5 and Husqvarna's 1-16. I went with 1-12. 1-14 would fine.
i have a CZ550 FS that i pulled out of the original wood stock, pillar bedded into a green mcmillan HTG stock yopped off with a swarovski fixed 6x scope. if i had to sell all my rifles but one-this is the one i'd keep.
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i have a CZ550 FS that i pulled out of the original wood stock, pillar bedded into a green mcmillan HTG stock yopped off with a swarovski fixed 6x scope. if i had to sell all my rifles but one-this is the one i'd keep.
Pics are worth a 1,000 words. Especially in this case!!!
Originally Posted by raybass
I try to stick with the basics, they do so well. Nothing fancy mind you, just plain jane will get it done with style.
Originally Posted by Pharmseller
You want to see an animal drop right now? Shoot him in the ear hole.
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