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It will take a pretty damn big stove to burn all night with western softwoods.

I have heated with pine and aspen(that is all we got)with fairly small stoves. Amazing once a bed of coals is built up and you can bank the wood down and shut the stove down how long it will burn, Early morning the flame might not be there, but it is still putting out heat from the coals and metal box. Of course the stove needs to be pretty tight.


I have never heard of or used a stove that would keep a tent warm all night on one charge of western softwood. Coal might be different, but my stove, even though it's advertised as having a coal grate doesn't burn it work a chit.if there is none out there I am all ears.

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There isn't one. I have a small cast-iron Dutchwest in my house that weighs 200lb and it won't keep a true burn longer than 5 hours or so, and that's with oak.

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Years ago we had one of those Franklins that was not air tight and we went thru a lot of wood. Then we got a Fisher and we would load it up in the morning before we went to work and it was still going when we got home. We did the same thing when we went to bed.

Only electric was available when we built our house and it was too expensive. We heated with wood from about 1976 thru the mid eighties and only had either aspen or ponderosa pine. Growing up we heated with a coal furnace and it never went out all winter.

I don't think many people today know how to properly bank down a fire to get it to burn all night.


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Banking a stove down isnt rocket science. One problem with choking a tent stove down is that the chimney creosotes up when burning coniferous softwoods. If you use a spark arrestor its even worse.

When I use my tent stove near my home in upper MI, I fire it with sugar maple, which is one of the highest BTU contents. it still wont go all night.

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Originally Posted by BWalker
One problem with choking a tent stove down is that the chimney creosotes up when burning coniferous softwoods.


Old wives' tale. "Rural" legend. Moisture content is what determines creosote deposition, not the specie of wood burned.

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Hey professor, he's right about choking the stove down. The hotter the fire and/or the more oxygen, the more complete the combustion and the less creosote buildup you get. Regardless of the type of wood burned.



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There is cure for that creosote build up.It's called cleaning your chimney.I did it about twice a week in the winter whenIwas heating with wood. In elk camp,we did it about mid week in a ten day season.

It's not rocket science


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I was gonna say, in a tent that stays up for a week or two at a time, it's not a big deal.



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Originally Posted by Take_a_knee
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One problem with choking a tent stove down is that the chimney creosotes up when burning coniferous softwoods.


Old wives' tale. "Rural" legend. Moisture content is what determines creosote deposition, not the specie of wood burned.


That is true. Flue gas temp is what determines creosote buildup, so a cooler fire will produce more. Burning softwoods however, has nothing to do with it.

Would that isn't dry causes creosote because turning the moisture in the wood to steam, markedly lowers flue gas temps.

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Originally Posted by Take_a_knee
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Originally Posted by BWalker
One problem with choking a tent stove down is that the chimney creosotes up when burning coniferous softwoods.


Old wives' tale. "Rural" legend. Moisture content is what determines creosote deposition, not the specie of wood burned.


That is true. Flue gas temp is what determines creosote buildup, so a cooler fire will produce more. Burning softwoods however, has nothing to do with it.

Would that isn't dry causes creosote because turning the moisture in the wood to steam, markedly lowers flue gas temps.


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This is completely off the wood stove subject, but I thought I would throw it out. Several years ago due to my health and physical limitations, we quit doing pack ins. The we started to camp at the truck in a bigger wall tent with a wood stove. No problems, but again cutting all that firewood for a ten day hunt was hard for us old farts to do.

I bought a 30K BTU Blue Flame heater from Northern Tool and heated with that. Guaranteed someone will come on here and say burning propane will cause a lot of humidity in the tent. Here in Colorado where it is relatively dry, I did not notice that, but it probably would in wetter climates. This worked out great. No more wood cutting, no chimney cleaning. Turn it down to low at night and stay comfy. Reach over in the morning and turn it up. Ten minutes and the tent is 65 degrees or more if wanted.

Later,I had a newer 20 ft gooseneck stock trailer ,that I kept the front stall clean with no animals. When we got to out hunt area I set up the trailer as my living quarters and al kitchen for the entire camp.

A 20 ft all steel trailer gets pretty cold, but that heater served us well. Usually we had to turn it off when cooking. Typically I used two 20 lb bottles of propane per season.

here is the heater on the right side, in the trailer.

Kind of messy,but it shows the heater.

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This might not work for the OP, but it is a different option if one is not packing in.

Age has again caught up and passed me,so I sold all that and now have a slide in pop up camper and bumper pull traile.r

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Originally Posted by deflave
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Originally Posted by BWalker
One problem with choking a tent stove down is that the chimney creosotes up when burning coniferous softwoods.


Old wives' tale. "Rural" legend. Moisture content is what determines creosote deposition, not the specie of wood burned.


That is true. Flue gas temp is what determines creosote buildup, so a cooler fire will produce more. Burning softwoods however, has nothing to do with it.

Would that isn't dry causes creosote because turning the moisture in the wood to steam, markedly lowers flue gas temps.


You forgot to log in under one of your other names friend.

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I'm the last person I'd ever kill. I love me too much.

Job well done on agreeing with yourself by the way.

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Trump being classless,tasteless and clueless as usual.
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Originally Posted by saddlesore
This is completely off the wood stove subject, but I thought I would throw it out. Several years ago due to my health and physical limitations, we quit doing pack ins. The we started to camp at the truck in a bigger wall tent with a wood stove. No problems, but again cutting all that firewood for a ten day hunt was hard for us old farts to do.

I bought a 30K BTU Blue Flame heater from Northern Tool and heated with that. Guaranteed someone will come on here and say burning propane will cause a lot of humidity in the tent. Here in Colorado where it is relatively dry, I did not notice that, but it probably would in wetter climates. This worked out great. No more wood cutting, no chimney cleaning. Turn it down to low at night and stay comfy. Reach over in the morning and turn it up. Ten minutes and the tent is 65 degrees or more if wanted.



That's a damn good idea. Especially for areas that have no trees.



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No trees? That's bullish**.



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No trees? That's bullish**.


I have no reason to lie outside of court:

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Yes, but that doesn't stop you. I think you do it for fun.

Is that elk hunting?



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Yes, but that doesn't stop you. I think you do it for fun.

Is that elk hunting?


I'd say it's about 20 miles from elk hunting. Similar country though.

Meaning you'd have to haul firewood.



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True, but if you get holed up in the tent due to a 2 day snow storm, it's nice not to have to stay in the bag all day to keep warm


I guess one had to be there, as I don't quite understand that one either. There's usually a 2-week supply of wood stacked in my tent with the stove.

As to areas with no trees, take the wife and kid along.
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True, but if you get holed up in the tent due to a 2 day snow storm, it's nice not to have to stay in the bag all day to keep warm


I guess one had to be there, as I don't quite understand that one either. There's usually a 2-week supply of wood stacked in my tent with the stove.

As to areas with no trees, take the wife and kid along.
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That's why Trav's old lady left, "I'm sick of this schidt"

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