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i'd argue that the 22LR is the ultimate SHTF gun. you can fit probably 5k rounds in ACU cargo pockets and with a m&p15/22 and a half dozen 25 round mags, you would be a formidable foe. granted you ain't not match for a 223 range wise but i wouldn't want to be within 200 yards of the other end of my 15/22.



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Some seem to look at the .22 as an extra loud pellet gun.

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These threads always remind me of one of my tag lines: "Never under estimate the power of stupid people in large groups."


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Originally Posted by derby_dude
These threads always remind me of one of my tag lines: "Never under estimate the power of stupid people in large groups."


Took me a while to realize these guys are not joking around. eek


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I'll take my Nylon 66 loaded with CCI Stingers over my Long Bow any day of the week for self defense & hunting.

And I'd take my cheap ass Marlin .22 mag bolt action rifle over both of those in a SHTF scenario.

That being said, I've got plenty 556 ammo for my 3 AR-15's & 5K rounds of 10mm for my Glock 20 if ShiiTT REALLY Hits the Fan.

And if it ever does, Food, Water, & Medicine will be the biggest concerns, IMHO



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Originally Posted by BigNate
I think .22lr ammo is of little use other than plinking at this point. If it really goes to hell, .223,9mm, .40 is all going to be worth more by far.
For getting food I'll use my bow, and won't have a parade of people coming to see what's going on. In fact it would be a quiet defense as well.


A quiet 22 and a brick of ammo will let you all of the above should you find need for it. GW


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Originally Posted by MColeman
Not many people function well with a .22 lr in the head.



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Originally Posted by justin10mm
Anyone that would choose a bow over a .22 for defensive purposes has seen one too many Rambo movies.


I don't advocate choosing it first always, but having had a full conversation with a guy bleeding from two .22lr holes in his chest while waiting for the ambulance I'm not impressed.

Anyone who thinks they are going to head shoot "bad guys" that are interested in taking you out better be practicing an awful lot.

Yes I know the arguement for using a .22lr and yes I have several and some ammo. Overall, I think larger caliber, popular ammo will be more valuable. Not attracting attention to yourself and how well stocked you are would be smart, however it's achieved.

I've not heard of anyone living through being shot with a bow. Then again, most bow shooters only shoot game or targets. Porch monkeys provide a lot of data on the effectiveness of handguns and ammo.


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If I have a good .22lr, I can acquire any other gun I need, if necessary.


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Hi Nate!

Glad to meet ya! I survived getting poked by an arrow many, many years ago. A cautionary note: One may shoot an arrow into the air, but there is a reasonable probability of discovering where it fell to earth.

Kids do the darndest things.


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Wasn't there a post a while back from a guy that had been there done it in south america or somehwere when the SHTF and was saying how one has to live, how ammo and gold and silver were the only means of bartering, what guns and calibers were best etc, etc...?


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Originally Posted by DigitalDan
Hi Nate!

Glad to meet ya! I survived getting poked by an arrow many, many years ago. A cautionary note: One may shoot an arrow into the air, but there is a reasonable probability of discovering where it fell to earth.

Kids do the darndest things.


Congrats Dan! I'd like to know the details as I used to play that game as well, but not with broadheads. I do remember someone saying they'd suffered an arrow trough the foot like on the movie with Adam Sandler now, but I was thinking more like a directed hunting arrow.
I have a "dumb" scar on my calf from a target arrow too.


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Well, it weren't a broadhead. About 7-8 years old, long bow and field tips. Hold my coke and watch this!

Straight up it went. I realized it was coming down sort of in my direction. Run! Run! Run! Poked me on the right heel while I was in full stride.

My friends laughed at me. My feelers were hurt but not my foot.


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